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Old 25th Feb 2019, 09:13
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Global Vision base training

Hey all

in the process of getting the Global Express (Vision) on my easa license.
Need to do the base training too, anyone have any contacts and price figures?

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Old 25th Feb 2019, 09:48
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I've done it through AeronautX back in 2017. They’ve arranged a TRI/E and the aircraft to lease for the effect. I believe prices were something in the region of 17500€ all together (ATO fee, TRI fee and aircraft lease).

Hope this helps.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 12:56
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I know a TRI with access to a 'classic' who may also be able to get a Vision for base training - if you are interested PM me and I'll contact him.

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Old 28th Feb 2019, 22:58
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Is there any particular reason why you couldn’t use a classic for the circuits? Many years ago I did my circuits on a classic citationjet but did my type rating on a CJ1. I am just interested in whether that was legal or do I have to hand my licence back now.
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 07:17
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Hi Tom,

Yes it's legal. I'm sure EASA would like to make it not so, but they had to recognise that there are many variants out there for which there is no sim. So, for example, if your airline has A321s, you still use a 320 sim as there are no 321 sims. Interestingly, in that case there is very little difference in the flight deck but I understand that the landing is quite different; compared to the Globals where the handling is identical but the flight deck layout is quite different.
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 11:05
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The problem being that no difference training is required between A320/321, and the type endorsed on the license is "A320", valid for 318/319/320/321, ceo and neo.
Same thing can't be said for the Global, where a difference training IS required (2 different variants) between the Classic and the Vision.
The 7500 has a different entry in your license (G7500 instead of BD-700) with a new type rating required all together.
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 11:50
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Yes but the differences have nothing to do with the circuits on type. So the types is BD700 for the vision and the classic so you could, I think, do your circuits on a classic. And a classic is a fair bit cheaper to rent for half an hour than a vision..
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 14:19
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You need differences training to fly the other variant. Period. If you have differences training, you can fly circuits in either one.

Good Luck finding an aircraft for circuits.... I.e. why are you getting typed, if there is no gig ?
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 17:55
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Yes, sorry, the Airbus was a poor example as there is no requirement for differences between the 320 & 321. The principle is correct, though, and in some ways it reinforces the point that there is no training required to fly an aircraft that handles diferently but there is for an avionics upgrade! We quite regularly do base training on variants other than the one the simulator models.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 17:57
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PP, many people need to do the base training on an aircraft other than the one they are going to fly because theirs has not been delivered yet. Simple.
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