Global Vision base training
 

I know a TRI with access to a 'classic' who may also be able to get a Vision for base training - if you are interested PM me and I'll contact him.

Hi Tom,

Yes it's legal. I'm sure EASA would like to make it not so, but they had to recognise that there are many variants out there for which there is no sim. So, for example, if your airline has A321s, you still use a 320 sim as there are no 321 sims. Interestingly, in that case there is very little difference in the flight deck but I understand that the landing is quite different; compared to the Globals where the handling is identical but the flight deck layout is quite different.
See you soon!

The problem being that no difference training is required between A320/321, and the type endorsed on the license is "A320", valid for 318/319/320/321, ceo and neo.
Same thing can't be said for the Global, where a difference training IS required (2 different variants) between the Classic and the Vision.
The 7500 has a different entry in your license (G7500 instead of BD-700) with a new type rating required all together.

You need differences training to fly the other variant. Period. If you have differences training, you can fly circuits in either one.

Good Luck finding an aircraft for circuits.... I.e. why are you getting typed, if there is no gig ?

Yes, sorry, the Airbus was a poor example as there is no requirement for differences between the 320 & 321. The principle is correct, though, and in some ways it reinforces the point that there is no training required to fly an aircraft that handles diferently but there is for an avionics upgrade! We quite regularly do base training on variants other than the one the simulator models.

PP, many people need to do the base training on an aircraft other than the one they are going to fly because theirs has not been delivered yet. Simple.

Hi all, I am looking for access to a ‘classic’ for base training. Could anybody help me with this?

Today I am also interested in base training on Global

Out of curiosity, isn´t any BD700 simulator ZFTT approved? Pretty standard for many airline types these days.

if so, I mean ZFTT approved, after training on simulator as far as I know here we are again we need a real plane for flying LFUS to complete rating, don’t we?

The problem is
Neither of the two big ATOs has commercial air transport operations privileges (AOC) nor airplanes, nor do they have specific arrangements with commercial air transport operators.

so what is the way out of the situation then? Base training right? Could anybody give a reference where I can do that on BD Classic, I need ATO, TRI/E, lease aircraft.
Always appreciate your help. Thanks.

You dont need an ATO.. just a TRE with the correct approval for training in aircraft. Good luck with finding somebody that will lend you their aircraft to a noob and unknown TRE. Try FAI in Germany as they always seem to be hungry for money.

In EASA you need circuits to complete typerating.. in FAA you do it all in same sim, then head to airport and start one up as a private operator.. no LIFUS required unless its an AOC aircraft in either case

Sorry, this has not been true for about 10 years! You must go through either an ATO or your employer must be an AoC with base training in their Opspec.
We get about one customer a year who is having to redo their base training because someone gave them the above advice, and it was rejected by their NAA. An expensive mistake!

Sorry, this has not been true for about 10 years! You must go through either an ATO or your employer must be an AoC with base training in their Opspec.
We get about one customer a year who is having to redo their base training because someone gave them the above advice, and it was rejected by their NAA. An expensive mistake!