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Old 26th Feb 2022, 08:26
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Originally Posted by MonarchOrBust View Post
Through a bit of FR24 stalking, looks like 10-15% of VJs flights start or end in Russia. Thats gonna hurt for the foreseeable?
Not really. It will just free up crew and aircraft for other areas of operation which are straining to cope with the demand.
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 06:52
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Originally Posted by Humpmedumpme View Post
Not really. It will just free up crew and aircraft for other areas of operation which are straining to cope with the demand.
There´s likely to be somewhat less sushi leftovers for the crew though.. ;-)
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 13:39
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Angry

Originally Posted by Globally Challenged View Post

I have no complaints in how I was treated by NJE during the downturn.

All the cost saving options were exactly that - optional.

Initially went on Job Share (4yrs program alternating with year on / year off while on 60% salary throughout). My rating was renewed just before year off and I found an 11 month contract on the same type so got 2 salaries and continued with all the NJE benefits and protection from any compulsory redundancy for the 4 years.

Then about 18 months in to the above, they dangled an attractive carrot for voluntary redundancy with 15 months full salary + 3 months for every year of service.

Show me a company who treated their pilots better during the hard times and I will be impressed.
Then you were one of the lucky guys! I was in almost exactly the same situation, but 3 years into my Job Share, 128 pilots of us got a choice: accept the "voluntary leave" or leave the company the hard way: only a (legal) 6 weeks notice period and associated pay. You can only imagine, how many of those 128 choose for the first option... Job share and Job Protection promesse?? NO WAY!!!
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Old 25th Mar 2022, 15:02
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Originally Posted by MonarchOrBust View Post
Through a bit of FR24 stalking, looks like 10-15% of VJs flights start or end in Russia. Thats gonna hurt for the foreseeable?
VJ also just bought Air Hamburg who are heavily invested in the Russian market. Unfortunate timing.
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Old 18th May 2022, 09:55
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Any news on the ongoing recruitment?
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Old 13th Jun 2022, 13:39
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Recruitment continually ongoing. Losing our experienced Commanders, FO’s and Cabin Hostesses looking for better working conditions.
Pre- to post-pandemic, Vista is a completely different company now, unfortunately.
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 13:16
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What has changed since then?
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 14:15
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Originally Posted by alkor View Post
What has changed since then?
Not the pay! thats for sure. (Same as about 2007
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 16:09
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Originally Posted by zuluzuluzulu View Post
Not the pay! thats for sure. (Same as about 2007
Our conditions improved quite a bit at NetJets (especially for the more recent hires).

My tax return for 2021-22 was £138k gross for around 350 block hours and 207 duty days in the RHS of the Phenom having been in the company for 3.5 years.
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 20:13
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged View Post
Our conditions improved quite a bit at NetJets (especially for the more recent hires).

My tax return for 2021-22 was £138k gross for around 350 block hours and 207 duty days in the RHS of the Phenom having been in the company for 3.5 years.
and yet a RHS guy at VJ is on €45-48k with the chance of a few thousand extra if they’re a good boy or girl and get their bonus. that level of pay doesn’t exactly attract top quality applicants (and it shows!)!
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 20:45
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Originally Posted by zuluzuluzulu View Post
and yet a RHS guy at VJ is on €45-48k with the chance of a few thousand extra if they’re a good boy or girl and get their bonus. that level of pay doesn’t exactly attract top quality applicants (and it shows!)!
wow 🤯

That’s insane
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 21:03
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged View Post
wow 🤯

That’s insane
Insuppose you join VJ with an aim of getting your command in 3 years. so 3 years of very low salary is the price you pay. but then you have a captains salary which is still significantky (and I mean SIGNIFICANTLY) less than your FO salary at NJ. There is no getting away from the fact that the VJ salary is shockingly poor especially when you consider you will be doing 7-800 block hours per year.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 08:05
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But you get a very nice jet and great colleagues! You guys and your stupid money. Spot the irony.

Seriously: possibly, quite a few of those FOs come from a poorer background (in terms of working conditions) and might be okay with this low salary for a while.
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