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Old 2nd Dec 2018, 23:59
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Flying from EASAland to Non-EASAland

I'm trying to determine if a pilot with an FAA license can operate an 'N' registered aircraft based in Europe (EASA) on a flight from an EASA country to a non-EASA country.
Anyone have a definitive answer?
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Old 3rd Dec 2018, 05:43
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Private or Commercial Op?
Flying a private aircraft of any type through Europe has nothing to do with EASA.
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Old 3rd Dec 2018, 09:21
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You mean, like flying from Ireland to the US ?
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Old 3rd Dec 2018, 09:44
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I think that the question is related to the Part -NCC status of the operation.

On a licence stand point, there is no real issue. The country of operation ( base) might shed a light on the traps in front of you.
Anyway, if part NCC, you have to comply with the manual requirements in terms of crews and training ( sometimes it is as little as signing a form, sometimes it goes the full monty..)
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Old 3rd Dec 2018, 14:50
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The aircraft is resident to/based in Europe, private operation, however it is 'N' registered. Not enough time to get a 'validation based on foreign license' to operate the jet, so looking at a pilot flying the jet from/to Europe.
And yes, similar to flying from Ireland to USA (but that's not the itinerary )
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Find out...who is the 'operator' of the aircraft. That means for a part 91, either there is a very well established and clearly legally defined management contract in place with an operator, or the owner will be considered as being the operator. Then ask yourself where is the operator based? That means from where is operational control being exercised?. This can be a difficult question for a non expert to answer, and isn't just where does the person live or where is the office of the company.
You need to understand this, because of the operator is considered by the EU to be based in the EU then you need an EASA licence, regardless of anything else.
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Old 7th Dec 2018, 14:22
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Anyway, the request is too shady for giving a definitive answer. Need more beans for the stew..
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 12:56
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Find out...who is the 'operator' of the aircraft. That means for a part 91, either there is a very well established and clearly legally defined management contract in place with an operator, or the owner will be considered as being the operator. Then ask yourself where is the operator based? That means from where is operational control being exercised?. This can be a difficult question for a non expert to answer, and isn't just where does the person live or where is the office of the company.
You need to understand this, because of the operator is considered by the EU to be based in the EU then you need an EASA licence, regardless of anything else.
Yep, not very straight forward. The pilot in question is getting a certificate of validation from an EASA member state, so no longer an issue. And yes, he's going to get an EASA license.
Thanks to all for your input.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 23:00
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Join the NBAA then ask their friendly and expert team.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 23:37
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Join the NBAA then ask their friendly and expert team.
NBAA is pretty much worthless when it comes to EASA licensing issues. Not their area of concern.
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