Another question for PBN
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For a PA28 it's NCO.IDE.A.195. No need for PBN equipment if the route and /or approach is not PBN; No specific approval required if the equipment has the the approrpiate type approval.
There is also a CAA exemption for light aircraft IR holders to the PBN requirement, but I'm afraid I can't find it just at the moment and haven't got time to look properly.
There is also a CAA exemption for light aircraft IR holders to the PBN requirement, but I'm afraid I can't find it just at the moment and haven't got time to look properly.
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Good to know thank you.
The problem is that in Italy(and in other EU countries) almost all the airways are RNP5. I’m afraid it will be difficult to fil a IFR flight plan after 25 August. Almost 80% of all STAR and SID routes are RNAV/RNP..
The problem is that in Italy(and in other EU countries) almost all the airways are RNP5. I’m afraid it will be difficult to fil a IFR flight plan after 25 August. Almost 80% of all STAR and SID routes are RNAV/RNP..
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The PBN endorsement to an IR became required for PBN airspace or approaches (defined as routes or procedures requiring RNAV or RNP capability) on 25th August 2018, with it becoming mandatory for all IR tests (both initial and recurrent) from 25th August 2020. It has therefore been a requirement for any airways flight for over a year - RNAV aircraft equipment became a mandatory requirement for airways flight some years previously, phased in at various altitudes/levels for different countries, but generally required for any airways operations across Europe since 2012. It did take some schools a while to catch up, certainly in the UK it wasn't long ago that even some very major schools were teaching students to track VOR to VOR rather than waypoint to waypoint using RNAV.
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This appears to be an editing inconsistency since ENR3.3 (RNAV Routes) of the Italian AIP is yet to be developed. Section 2.1 of GEN1.5 only refers to RNAV equipment (specifying guidance accuracy of 5nm, therefore RNAV5), suggesting that the RNP5 statement in ENR3.1 is yet to be updated to RNAV5. Perhaps worth raising as a consistency issue, and well worth discussing during PBN training.
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Perhaps "updated" wasn't the best choice of words, since RNP capability does describe a more recent standard than RNAV. My intention was to clarify that the AIP mention of RNP5 may be an out of date editing error, since Eurocontrol standards generally require RNAV5 rather than RNP5 capability for enroute controlled airspace - suggesting therefore that then GEN1.5 mention of RNAV5 was produced more recently than the RNP5 statements in ENR3.1. RNP5 is generally seen more operating outside Europe, eg across the Middle East.
