DO NOT use Robert Weaver as a ferry pilot
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DO NOT use Robert Weaver as a ferry pilot
I work for a South African company that purchased a Cessna 206 from a company in the UK. We engaged Mr Robert Weaver's company, Sky Ferry, to undertake the ferry flight from the UK to South Africa.
Mr Weaver initially agreed to do the job, and we had certain conditions he was willing to agree to. One of the conditions was that a UK based family member and pilot would accompany Mr Weaver as a pilot to put our minds at ease.
The price was agreed and paid to Mr Weaver in good faith, after he informed us that most of the expenses would have to be carried by him upfront.
When the trip started, Mr Weaver decided that he did not like to have our representative with him and wanted out of the arrangement. On a telephone call with me, all three of us agreed that the ferry would not proceed and that he would repay our money to us (save for deductions for overflight permits already paid for and which would be usable by us). We also made practical arrangements with regard to the aircraft and equipment.
All of this just as background. Mr Weaver is adept at striking at these types of factual settings out in an attempt to discredit. So I accept that what appears above is a very summarised version of events. However, to this point, it does not form part of the complaint. The complaint is the following:
1. Weaver agreed to repay an amount and made the electronic transfer in the presence of our representative;
2. After our representative left, Weaver unilaterally changed the electronic transfer by deducting $3,300;
3.When questioned, Weaver asserted that this is the amount that ways paid to the overflight agents on our behalf and was still standing to our credit;
4. It transpires that he did not inform the overflight agent of the source of funds, and the agent accepted payment as being for Mr Weaver's large outstanding debt with them;
5. Weaver has never denied that the debt was due and was settled with our money;
6. However he flatly refuses to pay us the amount by which he was enriched.
7. Due to his unilateral decision not to proceed with the ferry, we suffered an additional $2,000 of damages, which we have decided not to pursue should we receive payment of the amount of $3,300.
I have experienced Mr Weaver to be unfair, dishonest and unreasonable. His reasons for cancelling the ferry were not only petty, he proceeded to effective steal $3,300 from us. He is not to be trusted, and I would seriously dissuade anyone from using the services of Mr Weaver or Sky Ferry.
I accept all contacts in this regard.
Mr Weaver initially agreed to do the job, and we had certain conditions he was willing to agree to. One of the conditions was that a UK based family member and pilot would accompany Mr Weaver as a pilot to put our minds at ease.
The price was agreed and paid to Mr Weaver in good faith, after he informed us that most of the expenses would have to be carried by him upfront.
When the trip started, Mr Weaver decided that he did not like to have our representative with him and wanted out of the arrangement. On a telephone call with me, all three of us agreed that the ferry would not proceed and that he would repay our money to us (save for deductions for overflight permits already paid for and which would be usable by us). We also made practical arrangements with regard to the aircraft and equipment.
All of this just as background. Mr Weaver is adept at striking at these types of factual settings out in an attempt to discredit. So I accept that what appears above is a very summarised version of events. However, to this point, it does not form part of the complaint. The complaint is the following:
1. Weaver agreed to repay an amount and made the electronic transfer in the presence of our representative;
2. After our representative left, Weaver unilaterally changed the electronic transfer by deducting $3,300;
3.When questioned, Weaver asserted that this is the amount that ways paid to the overflight agents on our behalf and was still standing to our credit;
4. It transpires that he did not inform the overflight agent of the source of funds, and the agent accepted payment as being for Mr Weaver's large outstanding debt with them;
5. Weaver has never denied that the debt was due and was settled with our money;
6. However he flatly refuses to pay us the amount by which he was enriched.
7. Due to his unilateral decision not to proceed with the ferry, we suffered an additional $2,000 of damages, which we have decided not to pursue should we receive payment of the amount of $3,300.
I have experienced Mr Weaver to be unfair, dishonest and unreasonable. His reasons for cancelling the ferry were not only petty, he proceeded to effective steal $3,300 from us. He is not to be trusted, and I would seriously dissuade anyone from using the services of Mr Weaver or Sky Ferry.
I accept all contacts in this regard.
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Oh dear! The popcorn is on.
Welcome to the club. It's a shame that you never previously saw this.
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...-skyferry.html
Welcome to the club. It's a shame that you never previously saw this.
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...-skyferry.html
Caveat Emptor - a 10 second google before handing over money to someone you don't know personally would have saved you any and all difficulties.
Lesson learnt.
Move on.
Lesson learnt.
Move on.
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Ain't no pills for stupid.
If you haven't learnt small lessons like checking out backgrounds in aviation, then you probably shouldn't be flying.
Leave the 206 in the Uk and thank Weaver for saving your life. If google are so tough to master, imagine how you'd fare in the cockpit.
If you haven't learnt small lessons like checking out backgrounds in aviation, then you probably shouldn't be flying.
Leave the 206 in the Uk and thank Weaver for saving your life. If google are so tough to master, imagine how you'd fare in the cockpit.
As a first post, this would presumably have been analysed by the mod gods especially considering the ultra sensitive subject, so it has passed the first test of authenticity.
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Capt Robert Weaver
Unfortunately as inexperienced people (today we obviously rue the decision), when it comes to ferrying aircraft, we relied on the guidance and recommendation of an agent.
I will in due course be posting a factually backed summary, with original copies of emails on a hosting site for people to read verbatim, PS: I will not correct the spelling and grammatical errors !!!!
Today, I am firmly of the opinion that I will not let Robert Weaver transport my 'lawnmower', let alone an aircraft. I agree 100% with other threads posted and this will be my advice to any person EVER wanting to ferry an aircraft, "FIRST research the Company and 'Pilots' and speak to people in the Industry and obtain INDUSTRY references before you entrust your asset to ANYONE.
I will in due course be posting a factually backed summary, with original copies of emails on a hosting site for people to read verbatim, PS: I will not correct the spelling and grammatical errors !!!!
Today, I am firmly of the opinion that I will not let Robert Weaver transport my 'lawnmower', let alone an aircraft. I agree 100% with other threads posted and this will be my advice to any person EVER wanting to ferry an aircraft, "FIRST research the Company and 'Pilots' and speak to people in the Industry and obtain INDUSTRY references before you entrust your asset to ANYONE.
The original poster did not come across anything negative before engaging said ferry company, yet nonetheless managed to find this forum to complain in afterwards? I'm struggling to make sense of this.
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Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc. The place for discussion of issues related to corporate, Ag and GA aviation. If you're a professional pilot and don't fly for the airlines then try here.
Just how professional RW is, no idea....
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Two Levels Of Enquiry
It seems to me like there appears to be two tiers of background checks.
The first is the enthusiastic one where they are hoping not to find any adverse information so as not to douse the unbelievable deal they hope they have secured.
The second level seems to go a little deeper and is carried out when all is not as it first seemed.
This second, backs up the old adage of,
"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, the chances are, its a duck."
Unfortunately Weaver strikes again and will continue to do so until action is taken to stop him.
Its great to see that there is an increased web awareness again which may serve to save any number of potential victims but im sure there will still be those that slip through the net.
The first is the enthusiastic one where they are hoping not to find any adverse information so as not to douse the unbelievable deal they hope they have secured.
The second level seems to go a little deeper and is carried out when all is not as it first seemed.
This second, backs up the old adage of,
"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, the chances are, its a duck."
Unfortunately Weaver strikes again and will continue to do so until action is taken to stop him.
Its great to see that there is an increased web awareness again which may serve to save any number of potential victims but im sure there will still be those that slip through the net.
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Harsh
I don't think we should be too harsh on Renier Kriek. He will not the be only person to have suffered a loss since original thread was taken down by the Mod. Just the only one to have admitted it here.
We were all taken in by Crellin, he even stole my identity!!
Weaver still has a credible web site and Eva appears to be a very long serving and loyal servant.
Thomas Handzlik, Rob Firth and Adam Miller are his pilots.
He has a long list of plausible testimonials, Jon Hilton of National Solicitors. BT Communications! He claims to have delivered their Meridian and given conversion training! Lots of other "satisfied" customers, allegedly.
Saw somewhere he claimed to have a contract with the Turkish military/ Airline?!
So where is the long arm of the law in all this?
Keep a Global Health Warning out on this guy. He will always be up to some scam where ever he is. It is his nature.
We were all taken in by Crellin, he even stole my identity!!
Weaver still has a credible web site and Eva appears to be a very long serving and loyal servant.
Thomas Handzlik, Rob Firth and Adam Miller are his pilots.
He has a long list of plausible testimonials, Jon Hilton of National Solicitors. BT Communications! He claims to have delivered their Meridian and given conversion training! Lots of other "satisfied" customers, allegedly.
Saw somewhere he claimed to have a contract with the Turkish military/ Airline?!
So where is the long arm of the law in all this?
Keep a Global Health Warning out on this guy. He will always be up to some scam where ever he is. It is his nature.
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Oh Eva! You have consistently spurned my advances. 
Weaver - at times the saga was entertaining but, without doubt, there were a number of people who were being manipulative/manipulated - much of this being fuelled through this forum. The whole affair was rather disturbing and this forum didn't shine in the way it moderated various threads.
Tread carefully - Weaver is not the only who warrants a cautious approach.
Weaver - at times the saga was entertaining but, without doubt, there were a number of people who were being manipulative/manipulated - much of this being fuelled through this forum. The whole affair was rather disturbing and this forum didn't shine in the way it moderated various threads.
Tread carefully - Weaver is not the only who warrants a cautious approach.
The original poster did not come across anything negative before engaging said ferry company, yet nonetheless managed to find this forum to complain in afterwards? I'm struggling to make sense of this.
A basic Google search reveals his past without too much of a hassle.
I have experienced Mr Weaver to be unfair, dishonest and unreasonable.
Seems there are plenty of fools which continue to be easily parted from their money
Weaver has certainly had Renier's trousers down over this and it's going to be a very expensive lesson in remembering that GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND!