KMSP and customs
Landing Rights Airport
It's been awhile, but I think KMSP is a "Landing Rights" airport.
See: AirNav: KMSP - Minneapolis-St Paul International/Wold-Chamberlain Airport
I think info may be available in the AIM, and certainly from any handler.
The actual law is:
19 CFR 122.14 - Landing rights airport.
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§ 122.14 Landing rights airport. (a) Permission to land. Permission to land at a landing rights airport may be given as follows:
(1) Scheduled flight. The scheduled aircraft of a scheduled airline may be allowed to land at a landing rights airport. Permission is given by the director of the port, or his representative, at the port nearest to which first landing is made.
(i) Additional flights, charters or changes in schedule—Scheduled aircraft. If a new carrier plans to set up a new flight schedule, or an established carrier makes changes in its approved schedule, landing rights may be granted by the port director.
(ii) Additional or charter flight. If a carrier or charter operator wants to begin operating or to add flights, application must be made to the port director for landing rights. All requests must be made not less than 48 hours before the intended time of arrival, except in emergencies. If the request is oral, it must be put in writing before or at the time of arrival.
(2) Private aircraft. The pilots of private aircraft are required to secure permission to land from CBP following transmission of the advance notice of arrival via an electronic data interchange system approved by CBP, pursuant to § 122.22. Prior to departure as defined in § 122.22(a), from a foreign port or place, the pilot of a private aircraft must receive a message from CBP that landing rights have been granted for that aircraft at a particular airport.
See: AirNav: KMSP - Minneapolis-St Paul International/Wold-Chamberlain Airport
I think info may be available in the AIM, and certainly from any handler.
The actual law is:
19 CFR 122.14 - Landing rights airport.
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§ 122.14 Landing rights airport. (a) Permission to land. Permission to land at a landing rights airport may be given as follows:
(1) Scheduled flight. The scheduled aircraft of a scheduled airline may be allowed to land at a landing rights airport. Permission is given by the director of the port, or his representative, at the port nearest to which first landing is made.
(i) Additional flights, charters or changes in schedule—Scheduled aircraft. If a new carrier plans to set up a new flight schedule, or an established carrier makes changes in its approved schedule, landing rights may be granted by the port director.
(ii) Additional or charter flight. If a carrier or charter operator wants to begin operating or to add flights, application must be made to the port director for landing rights. All requests must be made not less than 48 hours before the intended time of arrival, except in emergencies. If the request is oral, it must be put in writing before or at the time of arrival.
(2) Private aircraft. The pilots of private aircraft are required to secure permission to land from CBP following transmission of the advance notice of arrival via an electronic data interchange system approved by CBP, pursuant to § 122.22. Prior to departure as defined in § 122.22(a), from a foreign port or place, the pilot of a private aircraft must receive a message from CBP that landing rights have been granted for that aircraft at a particular airport.
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It's a good idea to send the CBP station an email / fax with all the flight info, plus the eAPIS transmission number, and then call them to make sure they got it, and get the initials / badge number of the guy you spoke to... and pass that to the crew.
Exhaustive and annoying but pretty watertight procedure IMHO.
Exhaustive and annoying but pretty watertight procedure IMHO.
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I know what to do and how to do it thanks. It doesn't help that the numbers published for CBP don't work and the handler (Signature) are like the mandatory chocolate fire guard that comes with lots of US handlers.
Your comment "Exhaustive and annoying " sums it up though. Getting info from most US handling agents is near on impossible as they either can't be bothered to reply or are clueless when they do.
I managed to find a number for CBP at KMSP and spoke with an officer there. He gave me the low down on requirements and an email address. He also added "we don't normally use email". Useful when the fax number doesn't work.
I know what to do and how to do it thanks. It doesn't help that the numbers published for CBP don't work and the handler (Signature) are like the mandatory chocolate fire guard that comes with lots of US handlers.
Your comment "Exhaustive and annoying " sums it up though. Getting info from most US handling agents is near on impossible as they either can't be bothered to reply or are clueless when they do.
I managed to find a number for CBP at KMSP and spoke with an officer there. He gave me the low down on requirements and an email address. He also added "we don't normally use email". Useful when the fax number doesn't work.
Handlers
The handlers I was referring to in my post were the likes of Air Routing, Universal, Baseops, etc.
Many local FBO's at international arrival locations are really clueless when if comes to entry requirements.
Many local FBO's at international arrival locations are really clueless when if comes to entry requirements.
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Thread drift admittedly, but I used Universal for four years for international ops before I discovered that I was being overcharged at every turn. There are many companies that offer a much better service without the added percentages that they stick on to every bit of billing.
I made the mistake of believing that they were the only people that know ops outside of USA...I have since learn t that this is not the case, and despite their insistence that they are the only people who can fix short term permits/problems fastest this is not my experience.
I do appreciate however that if you don't fly to EU, Africa or outside of the US regularly it is tempting to stick with a company you know. My advise - open your eyes, don't get any charges added to an account of Universal, and believe that they do have competitors who offer much more, for much less!
Perhaps another thread is overdue on this topic.
I made the mistake of believing that they were the only people that know ops outside of USA...I have since learn t that this is not the case, and despite their insistence that they are the only people who can fix short term permits/problems fastest this is not my experience.
I do appreciate however that if you don't fly to EU, Africa or outside of the US regularly it is tempting to stick with a company you know. My advise - open your eyes, don't get any charges added to an account of Universal, and believe that they do have competitors who offer much more, for much less!
Perhaps another thread is overdue on this topic.
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Coming to Minnesota from Alaska or western Canada you want to stop and clear at Hector International KFAR in beautiful Fargo North Dakota. CBP just built a new building adjacent to the jet center, jet center has been refurbished to support all the new oil shale activity. Friendly and quick, especially for us Minnesotans if the hockey team "formerly known as the Fighting Sioux" has recently beaten the Gophers, Bulldogs, Huskies, Mavericks, or Beavers. I know the old countries are so big on soccer they think it is football but here hockey is what matters. Jet center has solid tech and reasonable fuel plus surprisingly good coffee and fresh sticky buns as big your head. If final destination is in the Minneapolis St Paul area then head for Holman field KSTP granted 14/32 is their longest at about 6500' but it is never high and seldom hot. They value biz jet activity or go to KMSP and get treated like you are a nuisance getting in the way of Delta's hub ops.
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"If final destination is in the Minneapolis St Paul area then head for Holman field KSTP granted 14/32 is their longest at about 6500' but it is never high and seldom hot. They value biz jet activity or go to KMSP and get treated like you are a nuisance getting in the way of Delta's hub ops."
Sorry, I meant after a stop in Fargo, I thought the then made it clear but reading it again, it doesn't. Much quicker to stop at Hector and then head to Holman for ops where final destination is in Minneapolis/St Paul rather then sitting on the tarmac waiting for CBP at KMSP.
Sorry, I meant after a stop in Fargo, I thought the then made it clear but reading it again, it doesn't. Much quicker to stop at Hector and then head to Holman for ops where final destination is in Minneapolis/St Paul rather then sitting on the tarmac waiting for CBP at KMSP.
