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Old 20th Apr 2012, 01:58
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- OMG! In the real world, we do not throw away $2,000 USD/day. Maybe Mr. Brunei, but not in any commercial endeavor attempting to make money.
The subject wasn't the real world, it was the Gulf where your typical management company is conceived by some poseurs who hire a tea boy first and is managed like a poorly-run money laundering operation. They're spawned, they hatch, and die.

But during that brief, shining moment, lots and lots of catering.

(Brunei's not in the Gulf. It's another place and has trees)

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Old 20th Apr 2012, 02:13
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You know what, I forgot the original post was about the ME. . .

I guess that might be the "real world" now. . .

A brave new world.
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Old 20th Apr 2012, 07:55
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2992 you are correct when talking about the "lower" end of the market but that market does not really exists in the ME, or Europe, not in the same way (extent) as in the US at least.

Yes, the initial quote was from an article about the ME but the same argument is true for Europe, the CIS and Asia for the Falcon 2000 and upward size aircraft.

There are tons of qualified and experienced pilots around to fly these aircraft, but very few companies are hiring qualified pilots, they are hiring type ratings.

What you are telling us 2992 is that you are trying to do things the right way by explaining to potential owners about the involved costs before they buy a jet.

I know numerous operators in Europe and the ME that intentionally misinform potential clients about costs just to get them to sign a management contract that will be very costly and difficult to get out of. Once its signed they slowly but gradually "introduce" all the real costs involved.

The same goes for quite a few brokers who are interested in selling a jet, any jet. They don't care if it's the right jet for the client, if it's going to really do what the client wanted it to do, costs what the client had budgeted for etc etc....
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Old 20th Apr 2012, 09:21
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the "lower" end of the market but that market does not really exists in the ME
It limited in the ME due to the range limitations, but it's increasing, all you have to do is look at the aprons in Riyadh, Jeddah and Dubai and you will see what I mean.

- OMG! In the real world, we do not throw away $2,000 USD/day
Oops, guess that I dont live in the real world.

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Old 20th Apr 2012, 17:59
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in my experience, if you buy a new aircraft you will get 4 typeratings thrown in , so no issue with training costs !
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Old 20th Apr 2012, 18:18
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Unless you want to sell on those training slots and make some money one them. Now where can I find those rated guys again?
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