The shortest runway you have ever landed wth jet?
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The shortest runway you have ever landed wth jet?
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The shortest runway you have ever landed with jet?
Cessna 525 CJ1 - 900 m (2953ft) - ferry pilot I flew with told me he landed at 600 m
Cessna 560 XLS+ - 900 m (2953ft) - my TRI told me he landed at 800 m
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The shortest runway you have ever landed with jet?
Cessna 525 CJ1 - 900 m (2953ft) - ferry pilot I flew with told me he landed at 600 m
Cessna 560 XLS+ - 900 m (2953ft) - my TRI told me he landed at 800 m
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Ganderkesee EDWQ in Germany is 836 m, LDA 799 m.
It is the Head office of Atlas Air Service, the biggest Cessna Dealer in Germany.
The Airfield is very often approached by all kind of citations.
Been there with a straight CJ and CJ3 a couple of times.
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It is the Head office of Atlas Air Service, the biggest Cessna Dealer in Germany.
The Airfield is very often approached by all kind of citations.
Been there with a straight CJ and CJ3 a couple of times.
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Powwatka Ridge Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I used to take an SII in and out of here fairly regularly...top that...
I used to take an SII in and out of here fairly regularly...top that...
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Citation SII, CJ3 and C680 Sovereign in and out of Virginia Airport, Durban, South Africa on a regular basis. 3000 ft rwy length.
Much scarier in a loaded 1900 than any of the jets.
Much scarier in a loaded 1900 than any of the jets.
I've landed a CJ1 at Marina di Campo on Elba, which is 949m, albeit with an uphill slope that helps. I probably had about 100m to spare.
However, it is possible to go much shorter than the manual suggests. The most extreme I have ever seen was as P2 in a CJ that landed at on 21 at Brudel and exited at C - probably about 550m. The PIC had never before attempted such a short runway, so was trying his hardest (possibly too hard) and in a light aircraft. The tower were rather surprised as even the PC12s based there normally exit at D:
However, it is possible to go much shorter than the manual suggests. The most extreme I have ever seen was as P2 in a CJ that landed at on 21 at Brudel and exited at C - probably about 550m. The PIC had never before attempted such a short runway, so was trying his hardest (possibly too hard) and in a light aircraft. The tower were rather surprised as even the PC12s based there normally exit at D:
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Did my very first landing on a CJ2 (during the on-aircraft rating) at
Coburg - EDQC - with 2822ft runway lenght. Canīt say I felt to comfy, but the airplane was light and in the end it wasnīt that hard. Next landing then was in Ganderkesee.
Since 4 years we operate a Sovereign out of a 3323 LDA/3694ft TODA rwy.
No prob at all until now, but definitely not the place to have a brake failure...
If at lower weights (e.g. 4000lbs fuel plus 3-4 pax) we are airborne way before the 1/2 way markers, that is an estimated roll of 400 to 450mtrs. Quite impressive for a jet at 23000lbs...works quite well on my wrinkles, too...
even at 30300lbs/15°C she is off after 600-650 mtrs (again an estimate)
Used to be a Elba a few times in a Citation V. Canīt say landing was an issue, I always was a bit tense regarding bird strikes and go arounds against the hills there...
Just looked up Powwatka Ridge Airport, at 3340ft elevation. Hats off to you, you are a brave man. I had the displeasure of flying an SII for quite some time and I always thought she is a real runway dog.
We used to fly to southern Italy a lot and when the regularly used airport was closed for Nato use during military action in Bosnia I think, we used Foggia. 4718 ft runway at 267ft elevation. We needed the almost the whole runway with 8 pax and 2 hours worth of fuel. It was hot (IIRC around 42C). I hate seeing hedges that close during initial climb....
Coburg - EDQC - with 2822ft runway lenght. Canīt say I felt to comfy, but the airplane was light and in the end it wasnīt that hard. Next landing then was in Ganderkesee.
Since 4 years we operate a Sovereign out of a 3323 LDA/3694ft TODA rwy.
No prob at all until now, but definitely not the place to have a brake failure...
If at lower weights (e.g. 4000lbs fuel plus 3-4 pax) we are airborne way before the 1/2 way markers, that is an estimated roll of 400 to 450mtrs. Quite impressive for a jet at 23000lbs...works quite well on my wrinkles, too...
even at 30300lbs/15°C she is off after 600-650 mtrs (again an estimate)Used to be a Elba a few times in a Citation V. Canīt say landing was an issue, I always was a bit tense regarding bird strikes and go arounds against the hills there...
Just looked up Powwatka Ridge Airport, at 3340ft elevation. Hats off to you, you are a brave man. I had the displeasure of flying an SII for quite some time and I always thought she is a real runway dog.
We used to fly to southern Italy a lot and when the regularly used airport was closed for Nato use during military action in Bosnia I think, we used Foggia. 4718 ft runway at 267ft elevation. We needed the almost the whole runway with 8 pax and 2 hours worth of fuel. It was hot (IIRC around 42C). I hate seeing hedges that close during initial climb....
Elba, in an 560XL. Fun - and an even more fun departure 
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For reference and not strictly GA (although I doubt it came in under public transport 
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A/C: 747SP
Airfield: Rand airport SA. (elevation 1600 metres), length just under 1500 metres and width... 15 metres.
Information about Rand Airport - World airport database
).A/C: 747SP
Airfield: Rand airport SA. (elevation 1600 metres), length just under 1500 metres and width... 15 metres.
Information about Rand Airport - World airport database
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There was a Citation, belonged to Ferranti, based at Castlebar back in the late 70s/early 80s. As far as I can find out the runway length was 610 metres. I do remember it being mention as being 600 yards. I did know a guy who claimed th have taken in out on one engine.
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There have been some remarkably short field landings by passenger jets on final ferry flights - the Comet into Strathallen & the BAC1-11 into Brooklands are two which spring to mind.
Guess it helps if you know the aircraft will not need to be used again
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Guess it helps if you know the aircraft will not need to be used again
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Hi,
not the shortest runway ever but pretty impressive (and frightening): Heinz-Dieter Kallbach landed an IL 62 on a 860m gras strip. The ex-Interflug plane was still in one piece after this...
Kind regards,
Peter
PS: HD Kallbach was the Germania pilot who was beaten up for minutes together with his FO after a lunatic entered his front office in 2000 and tried to kill them with the fire axe...
not the shortest runway ever but pretty impressive (and frightening): Heinz-Dieter Kallbach landed an IL 62 on a 860m gras strip. The ex-Interflug plane was still in one piece after this...
Kind regards,
Peter
PS: HD Kallbach was the Germania pilot who was beaten up for minutes together with his FO after a lunatic entered his front office in 2000 and tried to kill them with the fire axe...
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Thruxton in a Citation 500 but no fuel or PAX. Landing not so bad but takeoff all you can do is MAX thrust on the brakes and wait for the numbers so careful on weight and temps or you will be still waiting for the numbers past the hedge
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Ahh Insomniac, I was hoping someone would bring up good ole Walikale...
Those were the days my friend, especially when the muddy runoff from the hill used cover the runway, and you had to use 'the force' to stay pointing in the right direction!
Those were the days my friend, especially when the muddy runoff from the hill used cover the runway, and you had to use 'the force' to stay pointing in the right direction!