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There is a very big difference between being arrested which does not mean a thing and as a result of that arrest being CHARGED!
All talk here is about an arrest somewhere in the world unknown? or out of the world Mars?will do
Can someone please confirm that W has been charged (somewhere in the world unknown or known or out of it if they have courts on Mars) and is due to face a court of law to answer those CHARGES?? As this is all becoming one BIG smokescreen.
That simple question is not subjudice neither can that carry anything negative towards a successful outcome that is all bunkum.
The Seneca thread and that incident which was unbelievable incompetence! of all Ws misdemeanors should have had an outcome if not in criminal courts through the aviation authorities but frankly I doubt anything will happen or could happen given the length of time that has past.
Pace
All talk here is about an arrest somewhere in the world unknown? or out of the world Mars?will do
Can someone please confirm that W has been charged (somewhere in the world unknown or known or out of it if they have courts on Mars) and is due to face a court of law to answer those CHARGES?? As this is all becoming one BIG smokescreen.
That simple question is not subjudice neither can that carry anything negative towards a successful outcome that is all bunkum.
The Seneca thread and that incident which was unbelievable incompetence! of all Ws misdemeanors should have had an outcome if not in criminal courts through the aviation authorities but frankly I doubt anything will happen or could happen given the length of time that has past.
Pace
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Whilst I appreciate the enormous efforts made by GEP and others to get the authorities to take this case seriously, I have to say I am coming down more and more on the side of Pace and Sooty on this.
Let us examine what we have had:
· A series of related allegations against Robert Weaver going back over a number of years, some of them apparently well documented and submitted to the authorities
· An admission, on this forum, by Robert Weaver of at least some of his misdeeds and an apparently unfulfilled promise to set them right
· Repeated assertions that the matter is being dealt with seriously by the authorities and assurances that, when it all crystallises, the original Robert Weaver thread would be removed so that justice could take its course (quite why that has to be the case I am not sure: I do not recall the press ceasing to publish stories about far more serious criminal cases and trials than this will ever be)
· The removal of that thread some weeks ago, followed by the posting of a sticky by Pprune Towers inviting anyone with claims against Weaver to contact him for details of the authorities dealing with the case implying that the authorities have now begun to take action
So far so good: for many people, myself included, this was just an illustration that the authorities take an incredibly long time to do anything but that, as frequently anticipated by GEP, they were finally getting their act together and that things were at last moving. That said, there has still been no news whatever of anything happening.
We now have the re-emergence of the Weaver theme in this related thread, which I suppose will be closed down any time soon, not giving details of anything specific but a whole bunch of what sounds very like innuendo or "I know something you don’t know and I’m not going to tell youwhat it is".
The police have very clear guidelines as to what they can and can not release to any member of the public, including complainants. By definition, anything that they have released is in the public domain and can be divulged freely to others. The police do not divulge such information"in confidence". I know this to be true because I myself was the victim/ complainant in a major fraud enquiry and that is how the process was explained to me by the investigating officer at the time.
The idea that such information, which has been released to a member of the public, could be helpful to Robert Weaver, or any other alleged offender, is simply laughable because, before the case gets anywhere near a court, all of the evidence relating to the case has by law to be disclosed to the defendant who will be given plenty of time to prepare a defence.
With the greatest of respect to GEP, whose efforts I continue to admire, I have to say that, in the interests of existing and, especially potential victims who don’t have the information you say you have, and may not have read the original thread before it was pulled, I really think that you should publish, here or elsewhere, any concrete facts that you know.
Let us examine what we have had:
· A series of related allegations against Robert Weaver going back over a number of years, some of them apparently well documented and submitted to the authorities
· An admission, on this forum, by Robert Weaver of at least some of his misdeeds and an apparently unfulfilled promise to set them right
· Repeated assertions that the matter is being dealt with seriously by the authorities and assurances that, when it all crystallises, the original Robert Weaver thread would be removed so that justice could take its course (quite why that has to be the case I am not sure: I do not recall the press ceasing to publish stories about far more serious criminal cases and trials than this will ever be)
· The removal of that thread some weeks ago, followed by the posting of a sticky by Pprune Towers inviting anyone with claims against Weaver to contact him for details of the authorities dealing with the case implying that the authorities have now begun to take action
So far so good: for many people, myself included, this was just an illustration that the authorities take an incredibly long time to do anything but that, as frequently anticipated by GEP, they were finally getting their act together and that things were at last moving. That said, there has still been no news whatever of anything happening.
We now have the re-emergence of the Weaver theme in this related thread, which I suppose will be closed down any time soon, not giving details of anything specific but a whole bunch of what sounds very like innuendo or "I know something you don’t know and I’m not going to tell youwhat it is".
The police have very clear guidelines as to what they can and can not release to any member of the public, including complainants. By definition, anything that they have released is in the public domain and can be divulged freely to others. The police do not divulge such information"in confidence". I know this to be true because I myself was the victim/ complainant in a major fraud enquiry and that is how the process was explained to me by the investigating officer at the time.
The idea that such information, which has been released to a member of the public, could be helpful to Robert Weaver, or any other alleged offender, is simply laughable because, before the case gets anywhere near a court, all of the evidence relating to the case has by law to be disclosed to the defendant who will be given plenty of time to prepare a defence.
With the greatest of respect to GEP, whose efforts I continue to admire, I have to say that, in the interests of existing and, especially potential victims who don’t have the information you say you have, and may not have read the original thread before it was pulled, I really think that you should publish, here or elsewhere, any concrete facts that you know.
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Could it be that posting "something" regardless of whether informative or new, is done with the intention of bumping the thread up to the top again?
Where (if there is anybody left reading who hasn't heard of Weaver
) it serves to warn or perhaps encourage others to come forward with previously untold Weavergate activities which may assist in his demise.
Where (if there is anybody left reading who hasn't heard of Weaver
) it serves to warn or perhaps encourage others to come forward with previously untold Weavergate activities which may assist in his demise.
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In defence of GEP, the re-activation of this thread was made by another party to which GEP responded. His reluctance to divulge information has on many occasions been explained as not wishing to aid RW in any way by giving him advance warning of the way things were going. I do not believe that GEP has ever used the term sub judice in the matter of this case.
If RW is ever brought to book regarding the events described here it will be in no small measure due to the efforts of GEP co-ordinating those who claim to have suffered at the hands of a (now) well known Halfpenny Green Pilot.
That some are still apparently suffering from the alleged deceptions surrounding ferrying and training is evidence that not all have heard the story so far.
If RW is ever brought to book regarding the events described here it will be in no small measure due to the efforts of GEP co-ordinating those who claim to have suffered at the hands of a (now) well known Halfpenny Green Pilot.
That some are still apparently suffering from the alleged deceptions surrounding ferrying and training is evidence that not all have heard the story so far.
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I agree entirely with your appreciation of what GEP has done to date and what he continues to do.
I do think that things have moved on a bit and that this may well be the time to bring the facts out into the open for the reasons given in my earlier post.
I stress, I'm not having a go at GEP. Just the opposite. But I do think he will get better results, especially in preventing others who have not read the earlier thread from getting hurt.
I agree entirely with your appreciation of what GEP has done to date and what he continues to do.
I do think that things have moved on a bit and that this may well be the time to bring the facts out into the open for the reasons given in my earlier post.
I stress, I'm not having a go at GEP. Just the opposite. But I do think he will get better results, especially in preventing others who have not read the earlier thread from getting hurt.
Weaver's recent appology looks very much like his earlier appology from 1 or 2 years back. Well, talk is cheap. I fully expect him to go back to his bad old ways and i also expect the authorities to continue to do nothing.
It is also quite likely that we will get more "I know something, but I can't tell." and "There are things happening but they are secret." type comments.
Robert, your new web site looks much better, but your written English is still horrible, and painful to read.
It is also quite likely that we will get more "I know something, but I can't tell." and "There are things happening but they are secret." type comments.
Robert, your new web site looks much better, but your written English is still horrible, and painful to read.
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Since my posts yesterday, I have heard directly from GEP and, based on what he has shown me, I can see that progress really is being made and agree that details of that progress should not be published where Weaver can see it.
This is different from my continuing belief that information on what Weaver has done or tried to do should be published as a warning to potential victims.
GEP: continued power to your elbow.
This is different from my continuing belief that information on what Weaver has done or tried to do should be published as a warning to potential victims.
GEP: continued power to your elbow.
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Weaver's recent apology looks very much like his earlier apology
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I think Jonzarno is RW armed with a Cambridge based proof reader, who has now fulfilled his desire to gain details of any prosecution that may be coming his way.
I also think the moon landings were filmed in a hangar in Area 51 and the US Government were behind 911.
I'm also very bored at the moment.........
I also think the moon landings were filmed in a hangar in Area 51 and the US Government were behind 911.
I'm also very bored at the moment.........
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No, Jonzarno is a decent person with honest and just principles.
RW could not spell that. let alone understand the concept. RW is a bit like a vampire with a flood light, looking for the on button!!
But I do agree. RW would love a crystal ball and the ability to know what is going on
RW could not spell that. let alone understand the concept. RW is a bit like a vampire with a flood light, looking for the on button!!
But I do agree. RW would love a crystal ball and the ability to know what is going on
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Curses! Unmasked!
Actually Ruprecht and I are really twins.
Separated at birth, we shared the family fortune: he got the business brain and I got the English O level.
Actually Ruprecht and I are really twins.
Separated at birth, we shared the family fortune: he got the business brain and I got the English O level.
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the most majority sits the whole day infront a computer and seeks for internet excitement and affairs. thats all.
"Internet excitement"? I'm not so sure. "Affairs"? Hmm! That's a whole different question!
Note to Aerobat: In Englisch, "Affair" lässt sich auch als "Seitensprung" verstehen
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Seems he's still on the loose, and perhaps ingratiating himself. Think he would be working pro bono?
Rob Weaver, SkyFerry - National Solicitors
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Rather than going off on another generalised GSG hunt which will probably end up with the thread locked, I'd be interested to know whether the insurers concerned in the specific case that is the subject of this thread actually paid out or if some other action has been taken.
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Seems hes into choppers now too... or so his facebook thing says.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sky-F...=photos_stream
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sky-F...=photos_stream
