Going to Gulfstream 200 type initial?
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Going to Gulfstream 200 type initial?
I am a FAA ATP CFII-MEI with about 3000hr; I only had Part 135 experience with Cape Air flew CE-402 as PIC.
Now I get the opportunity to be on a G200 and they are going to send me to FSI for initial, and the job is flying in asia with the owner。 (china, taiwan, HK...etc..)
Never had type rating training before and with only some CJ525 jet experience，what would I expect from FSI training for the first jet type?
The checkride process is similar to my 135 ride w/Cape?
I already started to study the system manual FSI provided electronically；lots of system info to study compare to the CE-402.....
What would be the oral and the checkride like?
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!
Now I get the opportunity to be on a G200 and they are going to send me to FSI for initial, and the job is flying in asia with the owner。 (china, taiwan, HK...etc..)
Never had type rating training before and with only some CJ525 jet experience，what would I expect from FSI training for the first jet type?
The checkride process is similar to my 135 ride w/Cape?
I already started to study the system manual FSI provided electronically；lots of system info to study compare to the CE-402.....
What would be the oral and the checkride like?
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!
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Rather a sensitive subject with many pilots due to the current limited "mind-set" of most centers. My advice is as follows:
1. Study before you get there! Memorize all limitations, then study systems, then read the QRH, especially the notes. You just don't have time once class begins.
2. Instructors are not usually pilots. None of my six initial courses was taught by a professional pilot. They therefore focus on details of systems (trivia to some) rather than pilot actions on the flight deck.
3. Sim training is focused on use of the QRH and an FAA ATP check ride.
4. The things you really need to know (FMS) aren't discussed much.
5. Use the flight training devices as much as you can to learn the flows by memory.
Good luck, it's loads of fun.
FR
1. Study before you get there! Memorize all limitations, then study systems, then read the QRH, especially the notes. You just don't have time once class begins.
2. Instructors are not usually pilots. None of my six initial courses was taught by a professional pilot. They therefore focus on details of systems (trivia to some) rather than pilot actions on the flight deck.
3. Sim training is focused on use of the QRH and an FAA ATP check ride.
4. The things you really need to know (FMS) aren't discussed much.
5. Use the flight training devices as much as you can to learn the flows by memory.
Good luck, it's loads of fun.
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Spot on Frank.....
As he has mentioned, study QRH, Checks, Limitations, and get a cockpit layout poster, then fly the armchair.......have fun, enjoy your first jet......and one more thing.....if its an FSI in America.....try to limit your visits to Hooters during the course, as theres always one nearby frequented by the instructors!
As he has mentioned, study QRH, Checks, Limitations, and get a cockpit layout poster, then fly the armchair.......have fun, enjoy your first jet......and one more thing.....if its an FSI in America.....try to limit your visits to Hooters during the course, as theres always one nearby frequented by the instructors!
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Good advise above, let me see...
Before going to FSI:
- Study the aircraft systems, they look complicated for a jet newbie but put some logic to it. split the book in chapters, take one to read everyday, take side notes
- Memorize by heart Limitations, Abnormal Memory Items until you can recite them.
- Try to get a poster and learn the position of all switches lights and knobs in the cockpit.
- Learn what means every light in the master warning panel (annunciator panel).
- Learn where and what is located in your QRH.
- Take notes notes notes... is easy to forget what to ask while you're sitting in the classroom.
- If you haven't flown multi-crew aircraft before, i will recommended to read basic CRM, and get organized, you will have in the sim on your right side a PNF ready to help you in the drills and procedures, and he will expect the same from you when you're acting as PNF.
- Let the instructor know verbally what you're doing and talk to your crew, don't fly like a little silent mouse not talking and doing things without others knowing what your actions are going to be, I hate this, and the instructors too, they really need to know what you're thinking to make a sim session worthwhile.
FSI will train you to proficiency, any lag in knowledge or sim they it will be covered and reviewed as necessary to send you to your check ride ready to pass. What they won't do is to teach you general IFR flying, but I don't think it is going to be your case. 99% of the instructors I've had are very professional and helpful.
Been in the ground and sim with 0 jet time 2,000 hours pilots and with 20,000 hour pilots with most of his time in jets, and I've observed the same weakness repeat, and it is relying on the class to learn instead of studying ahead by their own or at at nights in the hotel room after classes or sim. Laziness shows itself.
You will have great sim sessions followed by catastrophic ones, don not get affected, pay atention to this situations, there are plateaus and peaks of learning in every sim session, you will not be expected to be perfect, but safe and precise in your actions and decisions.
After several weeks of initial training, and after a satisfactory check ride, you will be ready to really understand the plane when you start flying it, enjoy!!!
Supermoix
Before going to FSI:
- Study the aircraft systems, they look complicated for a jet newbie but put some logic to it. split the book in chapters, take one to read everyday, take side notes
- Memorize by heart Limitations, Abnormal Memory Items until you can recite them.
- Try to get a poster and learn the position of all switches lights and knobs in the cockpit.
- Learn what means every light in the master warning panel (annunciator panel).
- Learn where and what is located in your QRH.
- Take notes notes notes... is easy to forget what to ask while you're sitting in the classroom.
- If you haven't flown multi-crew aircraft before, i will recommended to read basic CRM, and get organized, you will have in the sim on your right side a PNF ready to help you in the drills and procedures, and he will expect the same from you when you're acting as PNF.
- Let the instructor know verbally what you're doing and talk to your crew, don't fly like a little silent mouse not talking and doing things without others knowing what your actions are going to be, I hate this, and the instructors too, they really need to know what you're thinking to make a sim session worthwhile.
FSI will train you to proficiency, any lag in knowledge or sim they it will be covered and reviewed as necessary to send you to your check ride ready to pass. What they won't do is to teach you general IFR flying, but I don't think it is going to be your case. 99% of the instructors I've had are very professional and helpful.
Been in the ground and sim with 0 jet time 2,000 hours pilots and with 20,000 hour pilots with most of his time in jets, and I've observed the same weakness repeat, and it is relying on the class to learn instead of studying ahead by their own or at at nights in the hotel room after classes or sim. Laziness shows itself.
You will have great sim sessions followed by catastrophic ones, don not get affected, pay atention to this situations, there are plateaus and peaks of learning in every sim session, you will not be expected to be perfect, but safe and precise in your actions and decisions.
After several weeks of initial training, and after a satisfactory check ride, you will be ready to really understand the plane when you start flying it, enjoy!!!
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I am sure I will try to stay away from Hooters as it's not on the checkride...maybe after....so I can ride something different。
One question I have is the black highlight vertical line on the system manual provided from FSI。Are those the must-know notations, or any other meanings? (below pic)
IMG_0463.jpg picture by pilotinsky - Photobucket
Thanks for all the insights!!
One question I have is the black highlight vertical line on the system manual provided from FSI。Are those the must-know notations, or any other meanings? (below pic)
IMG_0463.jpg picture by pilotinsky - Photobucket
Thanks for all the insights!!
