Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc.
Reload this Page >

Israeli made aircraft (G200, Galaxy, etc) and not allowed to overfly Syria

Wikiposts
Search
Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc. The place for discussion of issues related to corporate, Ag and GA aviation. If you're a professional pilot and don't fly for the airlines then try here.

Israeli made aircraft (G200, Galaxy, etc) and not allowed to overfly Syria

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25th Nov 2010, 08:17
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: who cares?
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Israeli made aircraft (G200, Galaxy, etc) and not allowed to overfly Syria

Was told the other day that a G200 charter required an extra 45 minutes added to the charter quote because the G200 is banned from overflying Syria. Anybody else run across this issue. Also, the G200 is now banned from landing in Beirut as of this week.

Curious to know if others have this type of info.?
Uncle Wiggily is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 08:50
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Geneva
Age: 47
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi all,

I would be very surprised, but on the other hand it's clear that 'certain' countries are restricting traffic linked to Israel. I can imagine if the flight is originating or heading towards Israel that certain countries ban the flight. But so far we didn't face any restrictions linked to the 'type' of aircraft in this area.

Cheers,

Alfred
GLJ Dispatch is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 08:58
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Jungle or Sand!!!!!!
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is true, we tried recently to go over Syria to Doha and they refused based on the basis it was built in Israel.
We have also been refused landing permission in Lebanon but assured this has been resolved (have not tested it yet).
In the UAE it is the same thing (if you check the Jepp entry requirments) but have been able to get in with some pushing.

The key words now "Constructed in Israel".......
mattman is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 10:18
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: who cares?
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow, I am a bit surprised a business-hungry environment like the UAE would impose difficulties on Israeli-Industries manufactured jets.
Uncle Wiggily is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 12:25
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The wino at the end of the bar
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Time for other countries to ban magic carpets, that`ll teach them a lesson.
fjordviking is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 12:42
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Stairways to heaven
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so is the ban due to potential terrorism threat by having an aircraft made in israel
jackx123 is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 12:49
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: on the move
Age: 54
Posts: 869
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
u can take the G200 into UAE no problems. Few countries in Africa wont let u over fly, ie Libya. I heard Syria, Jordan, Leb its a problem.I hope they get it right with the G250!!
Flying Mechanic is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 13:10
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UAE & Africa
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
G200/Yak48... tell them it comes from Russia.
John Miller is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 14:10
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Arizona USA
Posts: 8,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This has been going on for many years with some countries, since the Israeli's purchased the Jet Commander line from Rockwell.
On-off from time to time.
411A is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 17:59
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Various at the moment
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 1 Post
Jordan, no problem. Syria yes and they won't give an official reply as to why except "it's manufactured in Israel".

The way into UAE region from Europe would be Egypt/Jordan/Saudi/Bahrain or Turkey/Iraq/Kuwait/Bahrain.

With Lebanon, anyone have this from an official source ??
dc9-32 is offline  
Old 25th Nov 2010, 20:42
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Delsey
Posts: 744
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Only the Lebanese telliing us not to come back...
500 above is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2010, 05:38
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Various at the moment
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 1 Post
500above - Lebanese what ?? CAA, ATC or an agent ??
dc9-32 is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2010, 06:50
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Delsey
Posts: 744
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The handling agent told us that we could not land in Beirut, although a poster above stated the Lebanese may have lifted this restriction. Why not check with Executive Aircraft Services?
500 above is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2010, 08:17
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Middle East

Uncle Wiggily:

In the 1980's I ferried a Northen Ireland built aircraft to a South East Asian Nation, we had approval to overfly Syria, then to join the "pipeline" and down to Bahrain.

The instructions I had prior to the flight, from the destination State Department, was that no matter what emergency occured in flight near Israel Territory, I was not to land in Israel.

As it turned out there was no drama, with the exception of the flight through Syrian airspace where the controller tried to insist that I land and pay fees etc. I kept repeating the overflight " Approval Number" of my clearance and as we were then near to the border of their airspace, I crossed it and on to Bahrain.

Tmb
Tmbstory is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2010, 09:59
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Various at the moment
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 1 Post
"In the 1980's I ferried a Northen Ireland built"


With respect, it's 2010 now - things have changed. It seems the landing of G200's at say OLBA, depends on where the certificates are issued. I am awaiting clarification.
dc9-32 is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2010, 10:12
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: On the move.
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Israeli built aircraft

Just over four years ago I had to do UAE Air Law as part of the issueing of my UAE ATP. I'm sure I read in the UAE AIP that Israeli built aircraft could neither land, take off or overfly in the UAE.
Tempilot
tempilot is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.