Cheap type rating for Citation XLS???

[NuName]

To the Bizjetaviator

What experience do you have? How many hours? What licence? Chances are that no self respecting TRO would take you on anyway unless you have their minimum requirements. If you did have the minimum the chances are that you have already been doing something in the industry to get that far. Keep on doing it. There is no pilot out there that would condone what you propose. If the owner expects you to fund the TR and then work for free, why are your alarm bells not ringing? What has he invested in the "captain"? This all sounds mega risky. If you have the money to buy a type and then not get paid that is surley enough to keep you going for a good while, stay out of it and leave it for a professional to do, and insist on being paid, as he should, then you will have done your little bit towards keeping this profession worthwhile instead of helping to bring it to its knees.

[No RYR for me]

I should not face the reality and should not build some hours on JET.

If you have to PtoF (only if you are that desperate) make sure:

• you buy a type that goes a long way to your goal: in other words 737 if that is what you want to end
• You fly a lot of hours
• you get paid
• it is a stable operator

If not you will be cheaper off with renewing your IR.

[His dudeness]

Here we go again...

So everybody here in the forum are saying doesnt matter how long it takes to get a highly paid job i should wait for it for years and years ......

I should not face the reality and should not build some hours on JET.

I should just keep my licence current by paying for IR ETC ETC....

goood

Now then, BJA, so in the end you do want to earn a living through flying?


Allright, I´ll break it down for you:

your profile says, you are in Sri Lanka. Lets say, there are 2 Charter operators there:

Company A, who trains its pilots, pays them and generally has a good attitude towards safety etc.

Company B, who presses all it can from its pilots, probably is as cheap in maintenance as it is with its employees.

Your 'masterplan' is to fly for B until A takes one new hires and you will be the candidate to fly for them.

Why this often does not work is, that A either can´t compete with B for a very long time and will be driven out of business by these practices. Another version is, that A employs he same tactics as B. Nothing to win for you then, young Einstein?!
The third thing that could happen to you is, that A simply does not employ people that flew for B.

Lastly, you could get away with it and happily fly with decent salary and good general conditions. UNLESS there is the next special needs person trying to buy himself into the business and undermine YOUR T&C´s.

Go figure.

BTW, I´m a chief pilot (very small ops, so probably not having an impact) and CVs saying fly for food etcetc. go to the bin. Directly, no stops.
I worked long and hard for my career, there is nothing wrong with that. (from school to ATP 12 years, in steps [Electrician, PPL, CPL, IFR]

If its only daddies money you spent, go ahead.

[Spunky Monkey]

Stay in Sri Lanka...We have heating bills here...

[wigwag]

Im not sure, but, perhaps BJA thinks this is a good deal in the current climate, BJA pays only for the XLS type and then gets hours on type.

Compare to others who are paying type rating and line training and then 500 on type also throw in accom and food, then BJA must think this is a great deal.

But it's very interesting to see that as things filter down BJA is after a CHEAP type rating. What happens if he ever finds it ? What corners have been cut in order to fulfill cheapness ?

So many people want to cut corners it all adds up to a very serious situation for flight safety.

Safe flying ya'll

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