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With an instrument rating there are no restrictions and the insurance company will take into consideration experience but nobody is saying it will be easy or cheap.
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JAR-FCL or FAA ?
You cannot get the LR45 put on a JAR-FCL PPL or indeed any multi pilot/crew aircraft without either an ATPL or Frozen, and MCC etc etc....read Lasors on CAA web.
You cannot even get it put on a UK CPL/IR without having passed the ATPL ground examinations.....and after you have done all that.....an ATPL skill test in the Aircraft.
Bye for now.
You cannot get the LR45 put on a JAR-FCL PPL or indeed any multi pilot/crew aircraft without either an ATPL or Frozen, and MCC etc etc....read Lasors on CAA web.
You cannot even get it put on a UK CPL/IR without having passed the ATPL ground examinations.....and after you have done all that.....an ATPL skill test in the Aircraft.
Bye for now.
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Oh yes you can, the only essential difference between a PPL and a CPL is the word commercial, ATPL takes the commercial situation a bit further. I used to fly a large (way over 5700kg), 2 crew aircraft with a UK PPL holder who done the type rating on the CAA PPL and then had the priviledges transferred to his FAA PPL. The weight restrictions only apply to commercial operations, you can fly anything with a PPL, just do the type rating, and, you should really get an I/R to go with it so you can really have fun.
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To add a Multi Pilot Aeroplane Type Rating to a JAR-FCL Licence which the Lear 45 is there are prerequisite conditions.......it has changed from a few years ago......it's all in Lasors F4.
I don't know about other states, but for the uk you can't just get a MPA rating put on a PPL alone.
sooooooo get studying
I don't know about other states, but for the uk you can't just get a MPA rating put on a PPL alone.
sooooooo get studying
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Well I don't want it and nor do I need it, all this pertains to is the original question and the answer is yes, the fact that you have to satisfy certain requirements does not change the fact that ANY aircraft can be flown on a PPL. FAA, JAA or any AA.
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Not ridiculous at all, there are many PPL's out there with huge experience, I certainly know a few, apart from my previous comment I once knew a guy who owned and flew a Falcon 10 with only a PPL, he was ex air force. You just don't know who might be out there, life is full of supprises. PPL does not stand for no experience it only means not to be used for commercial purposes.
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You cannot fly any aeroplane on just a PPL nowadays......
Read Lasors F4
Sometime ago yes you could but as I said to put an MPA type rating on a Licence one needs MCC, which can be part of the TRTO Training and one needs to have passed all ground school at ATPL level.
Read Lasors F4
Sometime ago yes you could but as I said to put an MPA type rating on a Licence one needs MCC, which can be part of the TRTO Training and one needs to have passed all ground school at ATPL level.
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IIRC for any type designated as a "high performance aircraft", you either need to have passed the ATPL theory exams or undertake a separate high performance aircraft course. Finding an FTO that offers one could be difficult as there's a fairly limited market for such a course.
And yes you do need the MCC as well. It should all be in LASORS
And yes you do need the MCC as well. It should all be in LASORS
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Wrong.
Please refer to the last two posts.
Dangagan: To put a LR45 or any MPA type on a JAR Licence you will need more than just a basic PPL.
Other states will perhaps be different, but FSI Atlanta will not let you near a simulator without having passed the ATPL ground examinations and have MCC.....believe me
Please refer to the last two posts.
Dangagan: To put a LR45 or any MPA type on a JAR Licence you will need more than just a basic PPL.
Other states will perhaps be different, but FSI Atlanta will not let you near a simulator without having passed the ATPL ground examinations and have MCC.....believe me
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You are correct NuName, a PPL is all that is required to fly a LR45 or ANY other aircraft certified for civil use (and a few military for that matter)
Give it time and this will turn into the usual "my licensing authority is more correct than yours" cr@p.
Just like the discussion on correct logging of instrument time. There will always be some selfproclaimed aviation oracle, that has all the right answers on how things definitely are, remember... I have said it so many times I know its true.
Oh yeah... and reading "LASORS" and understanding airman licensing is fairly clearly two entirely different things.
LR45 can be flown on a PPL, if one gets different out of reading LASORS, FAR/AIM or Penthouse, the LR45 can still be flown on a PPL. No MCC, No ATPL, No parrot on the shoulder or wooden leg required.
Give it time and this will turn into the usual "my licensing authority is more correct than yours" cr@p.
Just like the discussion on correct logging of instrument time. There will always be some selfproclaimed aviation oracle, that has all the right answers on how things definitely are, remember... I have said it so many times I know its true.
Oh yeah... and reading "LASORS" and understanding airman licensing is fairly clearly two entirely different things.
LR45 can be flown on a PPL, if one gets different out of reading LASORS, FAR/AIM or Penthouse, the LR45 can still be flown on a PPL. No MCC, No ATPL, No parrot on the shoulder or wooden leg required.
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No, right 
, the question was, can a lear be flown on a PPL, answer=yes. I've had enough now so I will leave it to you good folks. I have not made any comments other that it is possible and it can be done, I doubt through Flight Safety or Simuflite but easy to do in Florida.
, the question was, can a lear be flown on a PPL, answer=yes. I've had enough now so I will leave it to you good folks. I have not made any comments other that it is possible and it can be done, I doubt through Flight Safety or Simuflite but easy to do in Florida.