Wikiposts
Search
Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc. The place for discussion of issues related to corporate, Ag and GA aviation. If you're a professional pilot and don't fly for the airlines then try here.

roxair

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23rd Nov 2009, 13:46
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Germany
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
roxair

Hello,

anybody heard about these guys?

roxair

They compare themselves with Jetbird and Blink saying that they would perform better. With King Airs?

Greetings,

Arthur
acme42 is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2009, 21:48
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 14 days away 14 at home
Posts: 699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting. Day Jet without the aircraft... How will they be able to get sufficient cloud and thus the low cost that we all are unable to get in the industry????

It is the classic business aviation problem: The only way to solve it is HUGE amounts of money to be able to build up a fleet and even then the cost will never really go down enough. Claiming that they will be able to pay back the investors after 5 years is a clear signal that it will not fly
No RYR for me is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2009, 23:27
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: England
Age: 53
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the fact that there are no people referenced on the site (i.e. Board of Directors, VC's etc) says more about this organisation than anything else. Additionally (and I'm not in this market) the graphs and figures that they quote seem optimistic to me when you consider how long it has taken some now established operators to start paying dividends to investors.

Like I say, I'm not in this market and if it is real I wish them the best but not to say who is behind it to give potential investors confidence strikes me as very dubious.
airmail is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2009, 11:03
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Germany
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for your thoughts. I have no clue on what is usual to disclose to the public if one looks for investors like they do. At least the board of directors is shown here: roxair Welcome!

I was just wondering about how they want to reach their goals ( I mean, come on, look at their charts!).
They set themselves apart from known air taxi business models if you read through the market and investment pages of their website. It seems that they want to run a special kind of sofware and use Turboprops. Although I'm just a curious pilot, I might drop them an email, maybe they share a bit of their "secret"? But I doubt it.
acme42 is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2009, 12:25
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They have big plans as shown on their website.

387.000 passengers per year in 2015.
Tickets start @ 59.- Euros/hr

I am wondering how many aircrafts they need for this business model.
With Jet Republic and JetBird we have seen already ambitious dreams but we will keep an eye on them and wish ROXAIR good luck. :-)
yacan is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2009, 12:57
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There is a lot management with a C in their title, I wonder whether they will be seen next Tuesday
SpeedbirdXK8 is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2009, 20:48
  #7 (permalink)  
V12
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oh dear, website uses those 3 killer words:

"Defining....Groundbreaking....revolutionizing...."

and to cap it all: "Roxair will dwarf almost any other business model within business aviation"



PUL..EEESE - have we learned nothing? Or will we all die of marketing speak?
V12 is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2009, 21:04
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Speedbird... Priceless!
drogue chute is offline  
Old 11th Dec 2009, 12:55
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
drogue chute - thanks, I have my moments
SpeedbirdXK8 is offline  
Old 23rd Dec 2009, 14:15
  #10 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Germany
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
v12: , while googeling for news on that company I've found that they have at least an advertising agency: plan p. GmbH, Hamburg, GERMANY - so I guess you're very right, they feel quite comfy @ home in marketing land. Still, I somehow like to hear an explanation for their charts someday... roxair - company And will they remove their comparison to JetBird in that price chart, now that Jetbird is gone? http://tiny.cc/bAG6S

Anyway: happy holidays, everyone!
acme42 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.