JetBird moves closer to air taxi launch
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DO You have any infos which marketing channel they utilize?
Personally I have not seen any adverts. yet. Who are their target customers?
Thanks for your thoughts..
Source: JetBird moves closer to air taxi launch
Air taxi start-up JetBird has taken a step closer to the commercial launch of its pan-European operation in September with the unveiling of its online flight booking system.
JetBird has firm orders for 59 Embraer Phenom 100 very light jets and has an option on a further 41 Phenom 100s and/or Phenom 300 light jets.
The start-up says the booking system - which is now in its testing phase - is unique to the European private jet industry. "While most scheduled commercial airlines currently offer an internet-based, real-time booking service, no existing European private jet operators, whose services are by their nature unscheduled, provide such a service. Instead, only web-based quoting services are provided, while booking must be completed on the phone or via an intermediary."
DO You have any infos which marketing channel they utilize?
Personally I have not seen any adverts. yet. Who are their target customers?
Thanks for your thoughts..
Source: JetBird moves closer to air taxi launch
Air taxi start-up JetBird has taken a step closer to the commercial launch of its pan-European operation in September with the unveiling of its online flight booking system.
JetBird has firm orders for 59 Embraer Phenom 100 very light jets and has an option on a further 41 Phenom 100s and/or Phenom 300 light jets.
The start-up says the booking system - which is now in its testing phase - is unique to the European private jet industry. "While most scheduled commercial airlines currently offer an internet-based, real-time booking service, no existing European private jet operators, whose services are by their nature unscheduled, provide such a service. Instead, only web-based quoting services are provided, while booking must be completed on the phone or via an intermediary."
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I would be a bit cautious. I'm not putting down the VLJ airtaxi thing, but I don't believe the timing is right to do this type of thing. Getting financing is not an easy thing these days. They will require financing to supprt their plans for 5000 VLJ orders or whatever. (I just love how these companies say "Yes, we believe our business model will afford the expansion of 100 jets in the first year). Wow, have these folks been stuck in a time capsule the last 2.5 years? Hey, I hope it works, but don't hold your breath, ok. Keep it real.
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the problem is that even with financing in place you still need customers !!!
when you see the very slow activity for well established and known air taxi operators I really wonder how you can begin succesfully such an operation
Is it enough to be new on the market to attract people ? Does it mean that old operators failed to provide a good service ?
when you see the very slow activity for well established and known air taxi operators I really wonder how you can begin succesfully such an operation
Is it enough to be new on the market to attract people ? Does it mean that old operators failed to provide a good service ?
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Chrispler,
good question but no answer so far...
Quoting you:
DO You have any infos which marketing channel they utilize?
Personally I have not seen any adverts. yet. Who are their target customers?
In my view: they have done nonthing and will fail..............
good question but no answer so far...
Quoting you:
DO You have any infos which marketing channel they utilize?
Personally I have not seen any adverts. yet. Who are their target customers?
In my view: they have done nonthing and will fail..............
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Where are the passengers?
I agree to the question just where the customers should come from. Right now every operator is struggling to stay afloat and potential customers shop for the best offer before committing. It's a cut-throat competition and I am asking myself, how they are going to run this thing.
Airplanes do cost money and the hardest way to find out about that is by sitting on the ground fo a while.
I saw people being laid off from outfits which - apparently - had unlimited growth-potential, Netjets is sending 300 pilots home and so on.
Good luck, boys! I would not bet on your success. At least not right now...
Airplanes do cost money and the hardest way to find out about that is by sitting on the ground fo a while.
I saw people being laid off from outfits which - apparently - had unlimited growth-potential, Netjets is sending 300 pilots home and so on.
Good luck, boys! I would not bet on your success. At least not right now...
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I am a 13 mil hour pilot, typed in 330 and 320. 6 years long-haul, tired of jet lag and chronic fatigue. My jump at the offer with FJB is like a glimpse of
clear skies after a night of Cbīs.....
I am not new at this, so please refrain from sarcasm. There are several other heavy duty long haulers like myself that have gladly traded their grandiose wide bodies for a fun
modern 6 seater like the Phenom. The business project is viable. Otherwise why would we be here ?
My point is that please refrain from the negative b.s. and save your bets; those of us hired as captains at FJB have been there, done it and one thing is for sure: Negativity gets you nowhere and I find your futuristic gloomy prediction irritating as hell.
clear skies after a night of Cbīs.....
I am not new at this, so please refrain from sarcasm. There are several other heavy duty long haulers like myself that have gladly traded their grandiose wide bodies for a fun
modern 6 seater like the Phenom. The business project is viable. Otherwise why would we be here ?
My point is that please refrain from the negative b.s. and save your bets; those of us hired as captains at FJB have been there, done it and one thing is for sure: Negativity gets you nowhere and I find your futuristic gloomy prediction irritating as hell.
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"The business project is viable. Otherwise why would we be here ?"
And you are qualified to know that how?
.......No offence...but...
Should the people on here with 37 trillion hours of actually running light jet charter business' really stop voicing their opinion because you who have no relevant experience believe the marketing literature?
PB
And you are qualified to know that how?
.......No offence...but...
Should the people on here with 37 trillion hours of actually running light jet charter business' really stop voicing their opinion because you who have no relevant experience believe the marketing literature?
PB
"Been there, done it", eh? But did you get the T-shirt, that's what I want to know.
If not, there's a few people on here who'll lend you one. Though they might be a bit raggedy, on account of having had so much use.
If not, there's a few people on here who'll lend you one. Though they might be a bit raggedy, on account of having had so much use.
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Oh how nice to hear so much positive feedback from all you guys. Sarcasm and sarcasm...6 years longhaul, I agree, big deal. Add another 18 years, cargo, executive and I think I qualify to speak my mind. I approach FJB with positivity, it isnīt my first start-up airline, and anyway, it will be my last post on the subject...brockwell, I suggest you learn to learn to express yourself properly in english, I havenīt a clue what you mean; 744again/Sepp and specially ipokijuhyt....take a hike, you act like children in your stupid replies
Am i bovvered, lol? 
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C'mon everyone, if you have a different opinion to ADFS, please keep it to yourself, this is not the sort of place to exchange different opinions in a light hearted way.
ADFS, best of luck with that optimism, and the English lessons!
ADFS, best of luck with that optimism, and the English lessons!
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I agree with ADFS
There's been enough negativity in this industry the past year without condemning JB before it even starts. Good luck to them and all involved. Looks like a fantastic job from where I'm sitting (made redundant last year).
A change in attitudes won't fix the industry, but it will help.
A change in attitudes won't fix the industry, but it will help.
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Brockwell/ Sepp, you really are annoying, the both of you. Iīm sure youīd be tender little wannabees over a beer at the bar, you hypocrites. In any case, somebody of your likes are anything but welcome at FJB, snotty little smart-asses, or any other professional airline for that matter. Typical new generation know-it-all attitude, pathetic
end of subject. Unless of course you want to meet face to face with me and then we see how really smart you are with your wisecracks. PM me and be a man.
end of subject. Unless of course you want to meet face to face with me and then we see how really smart you are with your wisecracks. PM me and be a man.
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ADFS,
More than happy to make your acquaintance at my usual hangout - I'll show you some of the work I did building business models for VLJ ops - and why, in my opinion, it won't compete with more than 3 bases of 7 aircraft and 2 types (IMHO Phenom-100 and 300, or CJ1 and CJ2). Hopefully you won't find that level of research "pessimistic" and "annoyng", however, going toe to toe could be fun.
On the positive note, if I am to be proved wrong (it has been known) the Phenom Ops are the ones likely to triumph over the Mustangs.
More than happy to make your acquaintance at my usual hangout - I'll show you some of the work I did building business models for VLJ ops - and why, in my opinion, it won't compete with more than 3 bases of 7 aircraft and 2 types (IMHO Phenom-100 and 300, or CJ1 and CJ2). Hopefully you won't find that level of research "pessimistic" and "annoyng", however, going toe to toe could be fun.
On the positive note, if I am to be proved wrong (it has been known) the Phenom Ops are the ones likely to triumph over the Mustangs.