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Old 5th Jan 2009, 19:53
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Flintstone

I think that hard evidence is something what you need in court, but here we merely have a discussion. Locust did not specified any name/reg, so I threat it like general discussion rather than accusations.
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Old 5th Jan 2009, 20:27
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I was surprise to see commercial operators at restricted airports, with same biz jet aircraft we use in our company, flying in and out commercially not private, without the use of runway analysis...........
Seems like a quite specific accusation to me. In the absence of evidence what's the point of this thread? We can all postulate and make wild guesses but why would we want to?

I may as well start a thread saying I think Cargo One is a gay hump-backed drug smuggler peddling children to perverts. I've no evidence to support it but hey, it lets me post on here eh?
 
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Seems like a quite specific accusation to me.
I have no idea who Locust is, for whom he works and where is based/living. So I have no idea who he is accusing. May be you know?
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Old 5th Jan 2009, 21:05
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Neither do I, he doesn't name individuals but he seems certain they're doing what he accuses them of.

I'm still intrigued to read exactly what leads him to believe it to be so. If he has any proof this could become interesting.
 
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I have already seen a commercial operated Lear at an 3000ft airfield. That has nothing to do with regulations for commercial operators. - The pilots of those aircrafts should know: if anything bad happens, their boss did not know nothing about that... Probable cause of accident: pilot error!
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Old 5th Jan 2009, 22:44
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Flintstone,

What leads you to suspect he is lying?
Let me tell you a couple of stories, which are quite similar to Locust one:

We used to operate a passenger jet, then it was returned to leasing company after lease expiration and got a new operator (in first world country). This operator starts then to operate the same regular charter route which we used to fly some time before. The only difference that we used to do a tech stop unless pax load was less than ~70% (very rare occasion) due to MTOW limitation. New operator was flying always non-stop. Before you ask me why I'm so sure they bended the rules, I explain. I was so much intrigued about their non-stop performance that I did a bit of investigation: I spoke to my ops people to find out if there is any way to play around with alternates, winds etc to make it looking ok - NO, I spoke to leasing company and some other sources to find out if they upgraded engine thrust and MTOW - NO, I went myself onboard to check if they have less seats, different config, whatever - NO, I went to tour operator to ask if there are any restrictions on max seats sold - NO, I spoke to ramp people to ask if they regularily have light pax load - NO (always full), they are same JAR OPS so no difference in calculations etc. So I know and I have evidence. However I never used it in any way and not going to. Those guys did not survived in last year bloodbath anyway.

When it comes to cargo ops, you wouldn't believe some stories which are actually true...
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Old 5th Jan 2009, 22:56
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Please Read Carefully Before Using Words Like 'Lying'.

Originally Posted by Cargo One
Flintstone,

What leads you to suspect he is lying?
I neither wrote nor hinted that he was lying so please don't suggest I have. If you re-read the thread you'll see that I've asked how locust knew these aircraft were acting in the manner he says they were. A reasonable request I think.

I fully believe that all sorts of horrible things happen but if we're to discuss this one let's at least start with some facts.

locust?
 
Old 6th Jan 2009, 09:16
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Indeed.

In fact, unless this thread grows some legs in the form of a basis for the supposition of illegal activity it will be deemed trolling, closed and its pixels recycled.


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runway analysis

Question is not very clear to me, what you mean for runway analysis ?

If you mean all calculations to match the AFM weight limitations......you have right.

If you mean the use of some approved runway analysis "table", you can take off and land legally (within weight limits) without any of such tables.

As far as I know, there are some collegues who likes to fly as "Test Pilot".

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