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Old 21st May 2008, 14:53
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Smoking on the flight deck

Just joined a corporate operator. I know that many customers pay to be flown privately so that they can smoke in the air. But wondered if it was normal practice for flight crew to smoke as well.

They do in my company. Guess, itīs OK if you smoke. but if youīre a non-smoker like me, to see your captain lighting up every few mins is not easy
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Old 21st May 2008, 15:13
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Well telling the bloke in the left hand seat you would rather he didn't smoke is not the best career move....better to try something subtle.
The next time he/she lights up, take your shoes off and make sure you put your dirty smelly feet as high as possible. If they are sensible they will begin to recognise that every time they light up you take your shoes off. If not at least you will have some individual qualities that will get a chuckle.

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put laxative in his coffee Man, he 'll be too busy sh***ing his pants to bother you smoking ! (
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Old 21st May 2008, 19:25
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I also work for a company that allow smoking on board the aircraft including crew but I wonder how this fits in with the UK no smoking in doors / in the workplace etc rule. If people are not allowed to smoke in public places or company cars then how can they smoke in the A/C?
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Old 21st May 2008, 19:37
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As far as I'm concerned, whilst flying a G reg aircraft on Public Transport, UK National rules apply. I'm not sure however, if I can apply the same ruling to a private owner......

Can Chauffeurs expect their bosses (and owners of the vehicle) not to smoke??????

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well , someones must be happy, 'cause they are smoking for free .....(for nonsmokers)
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Q: "Do you smoke?"
A: "Only passively."

Much movement of air vents might help you. Or you could go and put the anti-icing on because you're entering cloud.

On a serious note, I would think that it would be illegal on a G-reg flight deck because of UK law so try mentioning it to the CP. If it's your CP who is smoking, much movement of the air vents.....

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Old 22nd May 2008, 09:43
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The no smoking laws do not apply to aircraft at all, regardless of registration. If the skipper wants to light up then unfortunately there is not much you can do about it... Not very thoughtful though.

Maybe a quiet word to the CP suggesting that crew should not smoke when pax are on board... then at least he can go down the back on an empty sector and get his fix..
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Not sure about the UK law on that but in Holland you are not allowed to have a bed in your workplace............
Keep on thinking and you end up with the smoking rule.

It's getting less and less by the way, the smoking on the flightdeck what I understand from other people.

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Old 22nd May 2008, 11:40
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Eeeycuk No job is worth putting up with someone else's smoke fumes for hours on end. THe aeroplane must stink. I'd be looking elsewhere asap
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The no smoking laws do not apply to aircraft at all, regardless of registration. If the skipper wants to light up then unfortunately there is not much you can do about it... Not very thoughtful though.
Can you quantify that statement, as i believe the UK Laws would apply to UK aircrtaft and smoking in the workplace is banned and regardess of whether its private charter or a private owner jet the pilot is being paid so it is a work place.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 13:24
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I was parked at Sharm a few days ago and the crew in a G200 next to me were sitting in the cockpit smoking up a storm, pity the VIP that got on there if he was a non smoker. I agree with the earlier sentiment about the laws, furthermore if you are subjected to long flights in a confined space with a smoker, C O M P E N S A T I O N
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Old 22nd May 2008, 15:31
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Go on a high fibre, spicy diet then each time you fart in the cockpit apologise and explain that it's an allergic reaction to nicotine
 
Old 22nd May 2008, 17:21
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Just for clarification aircraft are excempt from the smoke free regulations - I have the details from the Office of Public Sector Information if one is so inclined.
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Hmm a spicy diet...i can think of a few companies on the other side of the Indian ocean where the flight deck must be a very happy place to be!!!

Would you like mango chutney with that Sir?!?
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Old 23rd May 2008, 17:34
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Green slope

The obvious answer is to put the oxygen mask on a breath oxygen every time he lights up.

I had a passenger who smoked a lot. I had a female co-pilot on one trip and she put on a her oxygen mask to make a point to him.
He never used her again so :-)

Has anyone had passengers smoking pot in the back? One friend I knew did but thought they were funny smelling cigarettes.

What effect would inhaling other peoples smoke esp Pot have on the pilots?

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Old 24th May 2008, 10:03
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Smoking in the cockpit is totally unprofessional and is not tolerated in the vast majority of companies. If you can't bring it up as an issue in your company, it's time to find another job or you'll end up taking a case against your company in the long run.
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Old 24th May 2008, 10:20
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Smoking

Pace,

The most dangerous thing you could do is put your oxygen on when your colleague is smoking! I assume you were joking when you said that.

Tempilot.

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Old 24th May 2008, 10:28
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pause for thought.

when flying and smoking at the same time, where do they flick the ash or flick the tab end?

i mean, it's not like a car where you can just wind the window down and chuck your spent ciggy out (or can you?)

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Old 24th May 2008, 17:37
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Dunno about smaller jets, but at least in Boeings (737 classics/NG) an ashtray beside each pilot seems to be a standard thing. At least we have them in every plane although smoking is of course not allowed.
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