Performance Exam requirements for National CPL holders
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Performance Exam requirements for National CPL holders
I wasn't quite sure where to post this question, so mods please move to an appropriate forum if need be.
Now a colleague of mine has recently approached me for my opinion on a certain issue, I wasn't entirely sure on the answer so I was hoping that someone here may be able to shed some light on this.
The situation is my colleague holds a CAA CPL as opposed to a JAA CPL. The CAA ATPL exams on this license have lapsed and as a result to obtain his IR last year he had sat the JAA IR exams; hence now holds a CAA CPL with IR.
He is converting the CAA license to a JAR CPL licence, however as he only sat perf E in the national exams they are not allowing him to place a perf C aircraft type rating on the licence.
However, LASORS states (section A) that the requirements for the issue of a JAA CPL from a national CPL is the need to demonstrate a knowledge of flight planning and flight performance as required by JAR FCL 1.470. It goes on to further qualify the statement (note 6) that if you were credited the UK Flight Planning and Performance c, d, e or u you will have been deemed to have satisfied this requirement.
A JAA CPL holder will have performance C privileges. So does the above statement mean that once you convert a national CPL to a JAA CPL you should then have all privileges associated with a JAA CPL without restriction. Does this therefore not mean that in this case he should still be able to place a performance C aircraft on his licence once it is converted to a JAA licence without needing to sit the JAA performace exams.
Sorry if this sounds a bit confusing, but can anyone further clarify the above.
Now a colleague of mine has recently approached me for my opinion on a certain issue, I wasn't entirely sure on the answer so I was hoping that someone here may be able to shed some light on this.
The situation is my colleague holds a CAA CPL as opposed to a JAA CPL. The CAA ATPL exams on this license have lapsed and as a result to obtain his IR last year he had sat the JAA IR exams; hence now holds a CAA CPL with IR.
He is converting the CAA license to a JAR CPL licence, however as he only sat perf E in the national exams they are not allowing him to place a perf C aircraft type rating on the licence.
However, LASORS states (section A) that the requirements for the issue of a JAA CPL from a national CPL is the need to demonstrate a knowledge of flight planning and flight performance as required by JAR FCL 1.470. It goes on to further qualify the statement (note 6) that if you were credited the UK Flight Planning and Performance c, d, e or u you will have been deemed to have satisfied this requirement.
A JAA CPL holder will have performance C privileges. So does the above statement mean that once you convert a national CPL to a JAA CPL you should then have all privileges associated with a JAA CPL without restriction. Does this therefore not mean that in this case he should still be able to place a performance C aircraft on his licence once it is converted to a JAA licence without needing to sit the JAA performace exams.
Sorry if this sounds a bit confusing, but can anyone further clarify the above.
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I'm pretty sure that your friend will have to sit the JAR Performance exam. I know of someone who had a CAA ATPL with a pass only in Perf E. He needed to do the exam. Hope that helps.
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yep your mate has to do the JAR perf exams, I had a similar situation to have my FAA multi crew jet type on my Jar license.
Need the Bristol Online database for around 50 quid and just before the exam your mate needs to see a guy called Steve Francis who'll possibly be able to do a one on one with your mate - 90% guaranteed.
I needed to have my JAR ATPL issued on the back of a job offer and couldn't afford to cock up.
Ask around in the wannabees forum for SF's details he was with OAT
Need the Bristol Online database for around 50 quid and just before the exam your mate needs to see a guy called Steve Francis who'll possibly be able to do a one on one with your mate - 90% guaranteed.
I needed to have my JAR ATPL issued on the back of a job offer and couldn't afford to cock up.
Ask around in the wannabees forum for SF's details he was with OAT
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Why does he neeed to sit them?
If LASORS states that the CAA exams (flight planning and perf c,d,e,or u) meet the JAR requirements for the issue of a JAR CPL why does he need to sit a performance paper to place a perf c airplane on it when it comes with that performance category anyway? I believe that the CAA have recognised and given it anyway, from the notes in LASORS.
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Your friend needs to do JAA performance exam which oddly consists of mostly Aerodynamics questions. There is not so much of the old perf A graphs and stuff.
Bristol do seem to have the best on line database.
Bristol do seem to have the best on line database.
