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Information to you who have been in contact with Lena regarding interviews etc.
She is no longer involved in the recruitments, but refers to [email protected] if you have any questions about your interviews etc. The responsibility is delegated to two other women who will handle the recruitments instead of her.
She is no longer involved in the recruitments, but refers to [email protected] if you have any questions about your interviews etc. The responsibility is delegated to two other women who will handle the recruitments instead of her.
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Does anyone have any recent information on the finance behind Jetbird? Apparently they are funded by the Royal Bank of Scotland (a quick google reveals this was announced in autumn last year), who themselves along with a good many other banks are of course experiencing a rough time.
When applications were first accepted by Jetbird, the terms and conditions offered were much better, with a gateway airport "base" system a la Netjets being planned. Initially it was thought by Jetbird that there would be only a UK base with others following later.
Now it turns out that there is only a Cologne base, the salaries are barely enough to cover commuting, and crew are expected to work a 5-2 5-3 roster. Is this perhaps because Jetbird are having to face tough finances now instead of a thorough financial backing?
I'll stress that I don't know the answer, and am strictly asking a question based on nothing more that my own thoughts.
When applications were first accepted by Jetbird, the terms and conditions offered were much better, with a gateway airport "base" system a la Netjets being planned. Initially it was thought by Jetbird that there would be only a UK base with others following later.
Now it turns out that there is only a Cologne base, the salaries are barely enough to cover commuting, and crew are expected to work a 5-2 5-3 roster. Is this perhaps because Jetbird are having to face tough finances now instead of a thorough financial backing?
I'll stress that I don't know the answer, and am strictly asking a question based on nothing more that my own thoughts.
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Mike,
Can you tell us what the original salaries were compared to the most recent offer?
Just curious, what do you think is a "fair" salary for newhire Phenom 100 pilots/co-pilots and what aircraft would you use as a comparison? Citation Bravo? Beechjet? Beech Premier Jet?
Cheers
Can you tell us what the original salaries were compared to the most recent offer?
Just curious, what do you think is a "fair" salary for newhire Phenom 100 pilots/co-pilots and what aircraft would you use as a comparison? Citation Bravo? Beechjet? Beech Premier Jet?
Cheers
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I think the current salary is more than fair. It doesn't work for me in Cologne, but that's not the point. The terms & conditions have, however, been reduced in line with what I said, which led me to ask a question. That's all.
As to the aircraft, I honestly have no idea. Why do you ask? I have answered your question, do you ahve an answer to mine?
I think the current salary is more than fair. It doesn't work for me in Cologne, but that's not the point. The terms & conditions have, however, been reduced in line with what I said, which led me to ask a question. That's all.
As to the aircraft, I honestly have no idea. Why do you ask? I have answered your question, do you ahve an answer to mine?
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I think your question is a good one. From what I know, JetBird has strong backing from an Irish investment group and a group of Saudi investors (see here: Fly JetBird - Media), but, like most companies these days, going slower than faster is preferred. Perhaps this operation will have to prove itself before it gets further funding for expansion - basically investment "stage gates." It will need to prove itself. I don't know for certain what is happening but I understand their prudence in this economy.
Personally, I think Cologne is a nice city but I would rather live elsewhere - AMS, London area and others. I hope JetBird does well enough to expand pilot domiciles. Again, it looks like an interesting concept and a very nice aeroplane but I wish the economy were stronger to facilitate growth. The down economy does concern me and it puts this operation and other start-ups (i.e., Jet Republic) at some risk. Let's hope that the Irish investment firm maintains its commitment and does not cut the cord too quickly... It could be a good long-term play.
Personally, I think Cologne is a nice city but I would rather live elsewhere - AMS, London area and others. I hope JetBird does well enough to expand pilot domiciles. Again, it looks like an interesting concept and a very nice aeroplane but I wish the economy were stronger to facilitate growth. The down economy does concern me and it puts this operation and other start-ups (i.e., Jet Republic) at some risk. Let's hope that the Irish investment firm maintains its commitment and does not cut the cord too quickly... It could be a good long-term play.
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Good job and congrat DJ!
Phenom 100 just got EASA approval two days ago with first registrations predicted in may.
Would it be possible to give us any clue on their forecast growth when you know details??
What you guys mean by PPJN (sorry for my lack of knowledge....might sound as a stupid question).
Thks
Alex
Phenom 100 just got EASA approval two days ago with first registrations predicted in may.
Would it be possible to give us any clue on their forecast growth when you know details??
What you guys mean by PPJN (sorry for my lack of knowledge....might sound as a stupid question).
Thks
Alex
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Got some 100s offered for 2.5 mil already... interesting to see what it does to their Biz plan: loose money with each aircraft by just taking delivery let alone fly them while the market has dried up... interesting times 
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Am I having illusions? 
I think that the question has already been answered two times now - but the answers seem to have disappeared!
If they are looking for highly experienced FOs, why not hire CPTs in the first place - there should be enough people on the market?
I think that the question has already been answered two times now - but the answers seem to have disappeared! If they are looking for highly experienced FOs, why not hire CPTs in the first place - there should be enough people on the market?