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That would work only if he is actually told what is going on. Is he? Who knows? I did hear tell that appointment of a training captain required his approval which suggests an incredible level of micro-management.
So either he knows but allows it to continue or is kept in the dark. Answers on a postcard please.
So either he knows but allows it to continue or is kept in the dark. Answers on a postcard please.
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Please baer in mind, that this forum is used by a few former employees which left the company for various reasons to announce interna which do not belong here or in any other public forum in order to make politics.
Some of them work in companies which are in direct competition to NJE, some of them in leading positions too. Some use it to badmouth as much as it takes to offer Jobs on their own paradise via PM.
Get the drift?
Some of them work in companies which are in direct competition to NJE, some of them in leading positions too. Some use it to badmouth as much as it takes to offer Jobs on their own paradise via PM.
Get the drift?
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Repeating yourself here 4Green. What's up luv?
Come to think of it I suppose we could mention that this forum is also used by people within Netjets (Europe, for the benefit of our American cousins) to make it appear that the company are all straight and above board, treat their crew well etc etc.
You know, management types and their puppets
Come to think of it I suppose we could mention that this forum is also used by people within Netjets (Europe, for the benefit of our American cousins) to make it appear that the company are all straight and above board, treat their crew well etc etc.
You know, management types and their puppets
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You know, and I am repeating myself here, I am not trying to cover mis-management I never had and never will, but I hate to read Interna which do not belong here. Thats a NO-NO and in the one or other case helped the ones involved, but overall just proves that we are in the need of a proper, private Intranet-Forum. In some cases it made things public which prevented the benefit or the improvement of the situation.
Most of the people working for NTA are quite happy and spend their time in a more useful way, but the ones on their personal revenge or on a Headhunting trip, those make my pressure rising.
Never, I repeat NEVER were things discussed here in equal width which improved in the company and which make it a place to stay. Because they are not existent? You know as much as I do, that this is not the case.
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Most of the people working for NTA are quite happy and spend their time in a more useful way, but the ones on their personal revenge or on a Headhunting trip, those make my pressure rising.
Never, I repeat NEVER were things discussed here in equal width which improved in the company and which make it a place to stay. Because they are not existent? You know as much as I do, that this is not the case.
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New Film Out: Welcome Aboard Toxic Airlines
I intend to keep the debate about this case "in house" about this Pilot. We are doing all that we can to bring appropriate pressure (& reason) to bear with Netjets management.
We have had a small success in retaining the 100% salary already paid in "error". However negotiations are in process & I want (as Smeagle says) this person to have the best possible chance of getting a fair settlement.
In the meantime, nothing stops us from seeing the "big picture" as they like to say in Lisbon: -so...
Check out this new film premiered n Paris last saturday: -here is a preview http://www.welcomeaboardtoxicairlines.com The film is showing in Brighton for one day on Sunday 2nd dec at the Sallis Benny Theatre at 11am http://www.cine-city.co.uk/2007/event/?id=130
Peter Jackson of the IPA is asking for those of us who have suffered an aerotoxic event to answer an anonymous questionnaire which will be used for a forthcoming Panorama Program on the UK BBC devoted to Aerotoxic Syndrome. Contact Peter at [email protected]
We have had a small success in retaining the 100% salary already paid in "error". However negotiations are in process & I want (as Smeagle says) this person to have the best possible chance of getting a fair settlement.
In the meantime, nothing stops us from seeing the "big picture" as they like to say in Lisbon: -so...
Check out this new film premiered n Paris last saturday: -here is a preview http://www.welcomeaboardtoxicairlines.com The film is showing in Brighton for one day on Sunday 2nd dec at the Sallis Benny Theatre at 11am http://www.cine-city.co.uk/2007/event/?id=130
Peter Jackson of the IPA is asking for those of us who have suffered an aerotoxic event to answer an anonymous questionnaire which will be used for a forthcoming Panorama Program on the UK BBC devoted to Aerotoxic Syndrome. Contact Peter at [email protected]
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Sorry 4Green, didn'y explain myself. I thought something else had happened here and I'd missed it. Another NJE bashing thread and I didn't get to join in? You had me worried 
I understand you being upset at people talking 'outside' but I think this latest incident has pushed some of your colleagues too far. People can only take so much. I really hope this reaches a happy conclusion otherwise we'll be hearing more of this.
As for you getting a 'secure' crew forum, what do you mean? Members of the one you have are vetted by the moderators who confirm applicants are actually employees. That would be the same if the forum were hosted here or on any other site.
If NJE hosted the forum for you it would be the same (except of course nobody would post anything contentious for fear of retribution). This thread was started by someone within your company who decided they had heard enough. I'm not quite sure how you would go about preventing that apart from ensuring that people had nothing to feel aggrieved about.
I understand you being upset at people talking 'outside' but I think this latest incident has pushed some of your colleagues too far. People can only take so much. I really hope this reaches a happy conclusion otherwise we'll be hearing more of this.
As for you getting a 'secure' crew forum, what do you mean? Members of the one you have are vetted by the moderators who confirm applicants are actually employees. That would be the same if the forum were hosted here or on any other site.
If NJE hosted the forum for you it would be the same (except of course nobody would post anything contentious for fear of retribution). This thread was started by someone within your company who decided they had heard enough. I'm not quite sure how you would go about preventing that apart from ensuring that people had nothing to feel aggrieved about.
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I wish the pilot concerned a speedy recovery and hope the nonsense surrounding his salary gets sorted out soon.
What IF the case is proven? IF the pilot is able to show this aerotoxic incident resulted in his debillitation and IF it is proven that this occurred after three (alleged) reports of cabin air contamination on that one aircraft how many owners of Netjets shares are going to be asking if they flew on it?
If they did the next step might be medical tests. What IF organophosphates and other contaminants are found in their systems? Rich people can afford much better lawyers than poor pilots.
What IF the case is proven? IF the pilot is able to show this aerotoxic incident resulted in his debillitation and IF it is proven that this occurred after three (alleged) reports of cabin air contamination on that one aircraft how many owners of Netjets shares are going to be asking if they flew on it?
If they did the next step might be medical tests. What IF organophosphates and other contaminants are found in their systems? Rich people can afford much better lawyers than poor pilots.
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Interesting
I have read this thread with interest.
Firstly, lets get one thing straight. YES the Netjets companies are all run by different management. HOWEVER, they are all under the same umbrella and ultimately governed by Mr Santuli and Mr Buffett.
They have some say in everything which goes on in NJE and NJME, otherwise the company would not be able to use the Netjets name! A bit like a franchise I suppose.
There are two sides to any coin, ie many cases of staff being treated badly,
and there are also loads where they are VERY well looked after.
NJE contracts and terms of employment are decided without Union intervention/negotiation, so until such a time that the staff have a voice through a Union these things will always go on.
Good luck to the pilot concerned, I hope he recovers soon and gets what he is entitled to.
Firstly, lets get one thing straight. YES the Netjets companies are all run by different management. HOWEVER, they are all under the same umbrella and ultimately governed by Mr Santuli and Mr Buffett.
They have some say in everything which goes on in NJE and NJME, otherwise the company would not be able to use the Netjets name! A bit like a franchise I suppose.
There are two sides to any coin, ie many cases of staff being treated badly,
and there are also loads where they are VERY well looked after. NJE contracts and terms of employment are decided without Union intervention/negotiation, so until such a time that the staff have a voice through a Union these things will always go on.
Good luck to the pilot concerned, I hope he recovers soon and gets what he is entitled to.
