Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc.
Reload this Page >

The NetJets contract - Good or Bad?

Wikiposts
Search
Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc. The place for discussion of issues related to corporate, Ag and GA aviation. If you're a professional pilot and don't fly for the airlines then try here.

The NetJets contract - Good or Bad?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 3rd Sep 2007, 17:19
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: somewhere
Posts: 357
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Drag King. I like your logic, you'd do well in Lisbon
Let me guess...do you think I am of the (new) "dirty dozen"? I guess you guessed wrong mate. It just happened I was there for my training which is not necessary related with NJE. However the welcome packs were lined up at reception's desk and just glancing at the tags many appeared to be coming from LIS's. This was a fact, everything is personal opinion.

You bet I would love LIS just for the climate and food...

Hope u get fresh infos soon to keep us updated on this soap.

Regards

DK
drag king is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2007, 21:06
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cautiously eyeing the outside world.
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by drag king
Let me guess...do you think I am of the (new) "dirty dozen"? I guess you guessed wrong mate.
Sorry DK, didn't make myself clear. I was only kidding.
Smeagel is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2007, 23:02
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: somewhere
Posts: 357
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry DK, didn't make myself clear. I was only kidding.
No offence taken at all, pal. It just amazes me how long and how badly this soap has gone on. I wouldn't mind joining NJE in future knowing very little about the past, present and future of this outfit. The crews that I met regulary seemed pretty happy as well as those coming to FSI for recurrents so...

Flight & Lifestyle (roaster, basing, gateways) seem appealing to me. Money isn't that bad compared to those nutters running some LoCos but we are talking of 2 different beasts. I have to enjoy my 2 little fans for a while but wonder what is next...

I hate to punctualize the obvious but...is there any perfect company?

You mentioned owners calling out but the orders book was said to be healty. We will see.

DK
drag king is offline  
Old 4th Sep 2007, 09:26
  #24 (permalink)  
Flintstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I've flown more than a few ex-Netjets owners over the past year and it's amusing to hear their stories from their point of view. Top of the list comes being lied to by Netjets when things went wrong. I always found it odd that upon joining the company everyone is told how the aircraft owners did not get where they are by being stupid while Customer Services or whatever they are called now is spouting outrageously unbelievable stories to conceal the cock-ups.

The order books are full, sure. But at what cost? The quality of service has suffered according to these ex-owners and all the ex-crew I know, myself included. Standards of customer service out in the 'real' bizjet world are considerably higher in my experience.
 
Old 4th Sep 2007, 11:09
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: england
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It all comes down to the fact that they should close the sales department for a while. This would give them the chance to train sufficient crews, dispatch and support staff and ground engineers to cope with the present workload.

Will it happen? Extreemly unlikely, I assume the sales staff get commission. Stop selling, no commission. Until they do something, however, given the rate of resignations, it can only get worse.
thedeadseawasonlysick is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2007, 13:17
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sometimes, over the clouds
Age: 40
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
NJ cadet scheme

Hi Nimbus,
I'm looking for the same informations that you are asking in this thread, because i'm also in the cadet scheme.Can we make a contact?
eiefkei is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2007, 20:38
  #27 (permalink)  
Flintstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Well eiefkei, you might be waiting some time for a reply from Nimbus (or whatever else he called himself). The general concensus seems to be that he was a little careless with his posts. Or was a troll. Or just wasn't very bright.

Anyway, he's gone.

Bumped into one of my ex-colleagues from Netjets the other day who told me that as of a couple of weeks ago the resignation tally so far this year was 55. How many crew are there now? 600? Ooooh, dear.
 
Old 11th Sep 2007, 20:55
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: mars
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What is the take home pay for a captain and fo on the new deal?
johnbull69 is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2007, 21:11
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Innerspace
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bumped into one of my ex-colleagues from Netjets the other day who told me that as of a couple of weeks ago the resignation tally so far this year was 55. How many crew are there now? 600? Ooooh, dear.
Not quite true, acc. to the latest number they lost one per week so far 23 which is prognosed 55 at the end of the year. Might change for the worse since the effects of the new contract are not quite predictable. A few retired, some went to the mayors (especially AF is hiring), some "got" resigned. others went to the place where the grass is greener.
Overall normal fluctuation, ask AB, Ryan, TAG and so on!

But the Danish and the French might make a difference soon.

OR, dear NTA PPRUNE Monsieur and Medame and Danish what are your thoughts?

If you have a second sparetime: Post your thoughts and your facts and your fears!
FourGreenNoRed is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2007, 22:34
  #30 (permalink)  
Flintstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Not quite true, acc. to the latest number they lost one per week so far 23 which is prognosed 55 at the end of the year.
Really? You sure? Because he was very, very specific about this. No talk of projected resignations at all. His exact words were "As of a couple of weeks ago 55 have gone".

While we're on the subject of Netjets crew discussing their own departures another told me today that the talk within the company was that there were "About 100" (direct quote again) pilots seriously looking to leave. Not me making these comments you understand but your own colleagues which, even if he is inaccurate, is a little worrying that a workforce is prepared to spread such information.

Ah well. Now, anyone want to discuss the weather?
 
Old 12th Sep 2007, 17:03
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Flintstone....you are misinformed.

eiefkel - send me a PM please.



From the Towers: Resolute is a Nimboid life form 21 times over.
Resolute is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2007, 17:23
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Get over it!
Resolute_nimboid is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2007, 18:29
  #33 (permalink)  

PPRuNe Handmaiden
 
Join Date: Feb 1997
Location: Duit On Mon Dei
Posts: 4,672
Received 46 Likes on 24 Posts
Methinks you've been rumbled again....
redsnail is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2007, 18:33
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think you might be right! Damn my inability to go stealth!!!
Resolute_nimboid is offline  
Old 13th Sep 2007, 16:32
  #35 (permalink)  
Flintstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Not 55 then RN? Care to say how many? Just curious as I seem to be seeing more and more CV's from that neck of the woods these days.

While I'm asking does anyone know how the lawyer appointed by the French crewmembers got on with the London office the other day. Did he have any more success than he did with Lisbon?
 
Old 15th Sep 2007, 02:16
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: somewhere only we know
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Company did not answer yet. As usual, they ll wait.
Hopeless.
bizantin is offline  
Old 15th Sep 2007, 08:20
  #37 (permalink)  
Flintstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
For what it's worth you have my sympathy. They'll never learn how to handle their staff decently.
 
Old 15th Sep 2007, 15:09
  #38 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Redsnail: I dont think they'll rumble me this time?!?!
Resolute_nimboid. is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.