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Old 5th Jul 2007, 08:28
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Why do it anonymously - if you felt you had a grievance, why not make it official?
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 08:42
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I suppose aviation is a small world, nobody wants to cause trouble, and at that time we were trying to make it work within the bounds of the law and of safety, expecting an AOC in the pipeline. Sadly this has not materialised, as someone pointed out earlier.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 09:13
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But how can a non revenue service work? Someone has got to pay for it! Unfortunately it sounds like you chaps who were doing the flying did.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 09:24
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It was a short term exercise, pending AOC approval, with flights being goodwill to future clients.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 09:32
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From what I gather, the Baron in question is on the AOC of another UK operator... But the whole thing does seem just a bit dodgy!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 09:43
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Which operator's AOC is the Baron using? I have heard this claim before elsewhere. The pilots really ought to be aware, I mean surely this other operator has SOPs to be followed? If it IS on another AOC then is the Baron now being used for revenue flights?

I am not sure, but I really do not think there is an AOC.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 10:04
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With a business brain like that running it, no wonder nothing ever materialised!

Any investor looking at a business plan that included something like operating expensive a/c for free whilst building up "goodwill" would run for the hills screaming.

If that's the way it was run, then I think someone has been telling his staff porky pies. If not, then come on here and prove me wrong!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 10:06
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I am kind of getting the impression that any investor may have done just that very thing!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:29
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sour grapes

The pilot here has a sour grapes problem, he has very low time, and we decided that he was not right for the company as for the flight I think you will find it was a free of charge flight for an existing client, for the heart of a 5yr old girl, the investor picked up the tab for the feel good factor.

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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:37
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Which pilot? I reckon there's a few watching this. So did you decide from day one I was not suitable? When were you going to tell me, only up to now you have been wanting me back in Swansea to fly for you!!

Unbelievable.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:41
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So are you now sacking him here on PPRuNe? Hmmmm.

If he wasn't "right" for your company, then why has he been sitting around waiting for you? Surely you would have the gumption to tell someone their services are no longer required?

Something smells about this whole venture.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:45
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Sour grapes

How many of us would have a few grapes after three months unpaid? Why don't you pay the guy up to date and then try and dismiss him? Why was he unsuitable? Does anybody here really believe that?

You sound like a benevolent chap, hearts n all. Why not just pay your pilots? Maybe then there'll be fewer sour grapes.

Anybody here wanna work for this guy????
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:53
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For the avoidance of doubt, I am quite happy to give my details to moderators and back up any claims I make here. For me it is all fact based, rather than the 'make-it-up-as-you-go-along' stuff which may be appearing. I want this thread to keep going, I think it is important for other pilots to know what we have ben through before deciding to get involved with these guys.

As for any legal action from Unique Air, bring it on, I would love my day in court at your expense. If they threaten PPRuNe send them to my door.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:54
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No, but I'd charter some of his flights if he's giving them away for free!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 11:58
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I'd fly you but apparently I'm not suitable!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 15:18
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Getting sacked on PPRuNe, I've seen it all now.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 15:41
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Unique air dont be seeing much to defend themselves, so it must be a real steer clear company!!!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 15:45
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Even their webhosting company seems to be steering clear of them at the moment!

Never a particularily good sign!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 15:53
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Account Closed!
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 18:57
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Here is a question for you exponents of Article 19 of the Air Navigation Order. If an aircraft owner supplies crew and aircraft gratis, and the middle man between the owner/operator and the NHS sell this service does it count as flying for reward.

If the NHS have indeed been inoiced for a flight, but this money was not passed to the company that owns the aircraft surely this must be ilegal because if not someone could simply set up one loss making company and one priofit making one.

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