Six Year Seat Lock At NJE.
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Thank you for the time to answer my Q's so far - but I knew they would be more!!
1. Can you work for other companies in your time off?
2. If no - is that a flying restriction therefore allowing you to work as a ground advisor to military contracts (it will help pay the bills until left-hand seat!)
3. If you are happy to stay on the small fleet (never had an APU to keep you cool/warm anyway) will you progress quicker through to leftseat/training Capt/TRI/TRE?
4. If you would like to get involved in the management side is your pay increased to reflect a loss in per diems?
5. On a Brit contract is your Basic pay paid in Pounds?
ALL information is gratefully received, good or bad - Smeagel please add your thoughts for a wholistic insight.
Thanks DB
1. Can you work for other companies in your time off?
2. If no - is that a flying restriction therefore allowing you to work as a ground advisor to military contracts (it will help pay the bills until left-hand seat!)
3. If you are happy to stay on the small fleet (never had an APU to keep you cool/warm anyway) will you progress quicker through to leftseat/training Capt/TRI/TRE?
4. If you would like to get involved in the management side is your pay increased to reflect a loss in per diems?
5. On a Brit contract is your Basic pay paid in Pounds?
ALL information is gratefully received, good or bad - Smeagel please add your thoughts for a wholistic insight.
Thanks DB
PPRuNe Handmaiden
DB,
1. I don't know. Others will know for sure.
2. Not sure, the main thing the days off are for is to ensure you're rested.
3. If you're on the small fleet, usually it means "fast upgrade" to the LHS. If you let the training dept know if you have specialist training skills I am sure they'll happily snap you up. It used to be that if you did your time on the small fleet then you were usually promoted to the bigger cabins "quicker" although I haven't seen much evidence of that lately, many have come to the mid sized cabin. (you get an APU)
4. I believe so. You may have to move to Lisbon though.
5. If you're on a UK contract, the basic's in £. Your per diems are in €.
I hope this helps.
1. I don't know. Others will know for sure.
2. Not sure, the main thing the days off are for is to ensure you're rested.
3. If you're on the small fleet, usually it means "fast upgrade" to the LHS. If you let the training dept know if you have specialist training skills I am sure they'll happily snap you up. It used to be that if you did your time on the small fleet then you were usually promoted to the bigger cabins "quicker" although I haven't seen much evidence of that lately, many have come to the mid sized cabin. (you get an APU)
4. I believe so. You may have to move to Lisbon though.
5. If you're on a UK contract, the basic's in £. Your per diems are in €.
I hope this helps.
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Per Diems are not taxed.
Pension is all set up if you live in the UK. It is pretty poor but, it is better than nothing and show me anyone who now has a good pension open to new joiners. If you don't live on The Island, it is still work in progress.
BUPA is great (but I do live in the UK) and is taxed as a benefit. My tax code was adjusted accordingly. They pay for dental, pay for my specs and if I get sick they move quickly. They cover spouse and kids.
I don't get involved with the management unless I have to. There are some great ones and some who are so poor it makes me laugh. The management want to work you as hard as possible and pay the least it can get away with, that's business. The very top managers are not muppets, they know that happy employees are productive, it is the to$$ers in middle management that cause the problems. It will all get better but it takes time, maybe if the office moved to Northern Europe it would help.
And I almost always get 6 on 5 off.
Flying on your days off is only allowed with management approval. They are not too keen for you to be flying for a charter company when Netjets has paid for all your training. Flight school stuff is ok I think.
I am still here mostly out of curiosity and a lack of imagination.
Pension is all set up if you live in the UK. It is pretty poor but, it is better than nothing and show me anyone who now has a good pension open to new joiners. If you don't live on The Island, it is still work in progress.
BUPA is great (but I do live in the UK) and is taxed as a benefit. My tax code was adjusted accordingly. They pay for dental, pay for my specs and if I get sick they move quickly. They cover spouse and kids.
I don't get involved with the management unless I have to. There are some great ones and some who are so poor it makes me laugh. The management want to work you as hard as possible and pay the least it can get away with, that's business. The very top managers are not muppets, they know that happy employees are productive, it is the to$$ers in middle management that cause the problems. It will all get better but it takes time, maybe if the office moved to Northern Europe it would help.
And I almost always get 6 on 5 off.
Flying on your days off is only allowed with management approval. They are not too keen for you to be flying for a charter company when Netjets has paid for all your training. Flight school stuff is ok I think.
I am still here mostly out of curiosity and a lack of imagination.
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Hello to all,
My question is quite specific:
I currently fly for a Middle East airline. I am looking for a lifestyle change with a Lisbon base. How do ex-airline guys currently rate Netjets (roster, lifestyle, family life, salary & benefits good for a young family)?
Thanks in advance,
Abeo
My question is quite specific:
I currently fly for a Middle East airline. I am looking for a lifestyle change with a Lisbon base. How do ex-airline guys currently rate Netjets (roster, lifestyle, family life, salary & benefits good for a young family)?
Thanks in advance,
Abeo
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Abeo :
Roster OK 50 / quarter 200 years inc vacations/Training no change in roster sometimes called for extended day but pilot discretion most of the times.
Life style : GA pilot lifestyle, a little bit worse since you are going to fly more than a leg a day, but you have a fixed roster.
Family Life :It is a life style so your family has to follow or get a new family
Salary : UK based or Portugal based, well to average, Others can comment only on the french corner where the grass needs watering. ( per diem are fully taxable for instance)
Netjets is an employer, not the worst, it is a new concept, but bottom line it is GA charter, if you can handle it , it is great fun, if not find a family plane or low cost or big airline, or do something else.
you will have to fly on xmas, New year's eve and so on , at night with reverse jetlag, like in ANY other company..
Among anything, Fly safe, and stay out of the trees !
Roster OK 50 / quarter 200 years inc vacations/Training no change in roster sometimes called for extended day but pilot discretion most of the times.
Life style : GA pilot lifestyle, a little bit worse since you are going to fly more than a leg a day, but you have a fixed roster.
Family Life :It is a life style so your family has to follow or get a new family
Salary : UK based or Portugal based, well to average, Others can comment only on the french corner where the grass needs watering. ( per diem are fully taxable for instance)
Netjets is an employer, not the worst, it is a new concept, but bottom line it is GA charter, if you can handle it , it is great fun, if not find a family plane or low cost or big airline, or do something else.
you will have to fly on xmas, New year's eve and so on , at night with reverse jetlag, like in ANY other company..
Among anything, Fly safe, and stay out of the trees !
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Originally Posted by N4641P
No interest from my side to move to a small company. So yes you did take me wrong.
Originally Posted by N4641P
Interested pilots migt get the wrong idea from some of the posts here where it is all about 'my job is better than NJ'.
Originally Posted by N4641P
Many people I fly with prefer this over airlines, so the story about inexperienced guys at NJ is untrue as well. For most people I know i was a deliberate choice to move to NJ coming from airlines or military.
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Thanks N4641P and CL300 for the info.
This feels like the right move for what I want out of life: an interesting job and quality time with my family.
Having done the GA thing for a few years prior to airline flying I think I may have a fair idea of what a day of work might entail at Netjets.
Seems I should polish that CV and get some studying done then,
Cheers,
Abeo
This feels like the right move for what I want out of life: an interesting job and quality time with my family.
Having done the GA thing for a few years prior to airline flying I think I may have a fair idea of what a day of work might entail at Netjets.
Seems I should polish that CV and get some studying done then,
Cheers,
Abeo
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"Those who leave with a lot of noise and continue to make noise long after they have left, tend to be the type of persons who never gave much effort to make things work in the first place, so this puts this noise in some perspective."
N4641P, did you study psychology?
I had a cousin who studied psychology, but he ended up being a carpenter.........
N4641P, did you study psychology?
I had a cousin who studied psychology, but he ended up being a carpenter.........
