Netjets roadshow
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As far as I can see in my country, we have a o called "double tax agreement" with portugal, that means being employed by a company via lisbon, we dont pay any further taxes, because we are more than 183 days out of our home country, I dont know, of different countries also have this "183 days rule"?
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Yes, this seems to be the meaning of a "double tax agreement" for most of Europe - I have worked with Germans, French, Belgians, Dutch Spanish etc, all of whom only pay tax at the rate of the country of the employer, even it is way less than that of their home base, on the proviso that they are less then 183 days in their home country.
Unfortunately, the UK taxman has a very different interpretation of a 'dual tax agreement'; If you pay tax at a lower rate than the UK, in the country where your employer is, then you have to pay the diffreence in the UK up to the level of UK tax. Only if you average less than 91 days in the UK per year, AND have a proper non-UK residence will you escape paying tax at the UK rate.
So my question is, are there any other countries which are moving down the lines of the UK - I am curious about the problems the French at Netjets are having, as under practices applied previously, I wouldn't have thought they would be hit for tax over and above that levied in Portugal.
Unfortunately, the UK taxman has a very different interpretation of a 'dual tax agreement'; If you pay tax at a lower rate than the UK, in the country where your employer is, then you have to pay the diffreence in the UK up to the level of UK tax. Only if you average less than 91 days in the UK per year, AND have a proper non-UK residence will you escape paying tax at the UK rate.
So my question is, are there any other countries which are moving down the lines of the UK - I am curious about the problems the French at Netjets are having, as under practices applied previously, I wouldn't have thought they would be hit for tax over and above that levied in Portugal.
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eat my shorts, what is wrong with the 1900? It has 2 propellors and a lot of engineers on board.
As Netjets is going to buy another 1900, they are currently looking for people who will initially start on the 1900 and become a captain after 1 year.then 1 year as captain and then you can promote to the Citation Bravo, which seems like a good deal.
You want to join Netjets, not just a plane right?, well this is currently the deal allthough they do not openly admit it fearing for less people to show up. As you only get to hear your aircraft when you show up for indoc, and after you have given up your other job, some could be in for a suprise wishing to fly the G5.
But once again, the 1900 is a great aircraft and a good way to start with Netjets, if this is your kind of company, two years on a 1900 is a small investment.
Good luck, this is the time!
As Netjets is going to buy another 1900, they are currently looking for people who will initially start on the 1900 and become a captain after 1 year.then 1 year as captain and then you can promote to the Citation Bravo, which seems like a good deal.
You want to join Netjets, not just a plane right?, well this is currently the deal allthough they do not openly admit it fearing for less people to show up. As you only get to hear your aircraft when you show up for indoc, and after you have given up your other job, some could be in for a suprise wishing to fly the G5.
But once again, the 1900 is a great aircraft and a good way to start with Netjets, if this is your kind of company, two years on a 1900 is a small investment.
Good luck, this is the time!
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I Believe what Eat My Shorts was saying is that the Roadshows are not recuiting for just the 1900. They are recruiting pilots for NetJets as a whole. Lots of aircraft coming, lots of drivers needed. Eat My Shorts was not criticizing the 1900 either.
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Anyone know if this will be conducted in German? Missed the UK roadshows and am thinking of popping over for the day. Any thoughts on the value of the roadshows? Or if I'll understand any of it?!
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Q: Anyone know if this will be conducted in German?
A: NEIN, all in English. More roadshows to follow after the summer.
Q: any use in applying if you dont have 1500 TT as required on their website?
A: If 1450 go-ahead, 500 come back in 1-2 years if you know what I mean.
Good luck!
A: NEIN, all in English. More roadshows to follow after the summer.
Q: any use in applying if you dont have 1500 TT as required on their website?
A: If 1450 go-ahead, 500 come back in 1-2 years if you know what I mean.
Good luck!
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"The purpose of the roadshow is to recruit pilots for the main fleet, not the B1900."
Nice try lisbon, but you know as well as I do that a lot of seats need to be filled on the 1900 and the latest plan discussed in the managers meeting is that people will join for a 2 year period on the 1900 and then move to a bravo.
Nothing wrong with a 1900, and you are inside the company, but you have to be honest with these new guys so they know what to expect. And as you only mention the type they are going to fly when the join on their indoc, many will be dissapointed expecting a G5.....
Nice try lisbon, but you know as well as I do that a lot of seats need to be filled on the 1900 and the latest plan discussed in the managers meeting is that people will join for a 2 year period on the 1900 and then move to a bravo.
Nothing wrong with a 1900, and you are inside the company, but you have to be honest with these new guys so they know what to expect. And as you only mention the type they are going to fly when the join on their indoc, many will be dissapointed expecting a G5.....
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Sorry hawkerpilot, but repeating a wrong statement does not make it correct.
I can guarantee that nobody showing up at INDOC will be given the B1900 unless he/she has specificaly applied/interviewed for that position.
We have ONE B1900. I have no idea why you think we have a lot of seats to fill on that ONE aircraft.
We do however have a lot of seats to fill on the 120 Jets we operate.Yes, people might find themselves on a Bravo or 400 but we dont promise a GV to anybody.
In fact, as you know, if we think a candidate is a quick upgrade he/she is more likely to start on a small or mid cabin jet but NOT on the 1900.
I appreciate that for some reason unknown to me you seem to not have enjoyed your time in NetJets but that should not be reason to intentionally spread wrong information about the company.
Feel free to address any issues you feel need resolving but please stickto facts not fiction.
I can guarantee that nobody showing up at INDOC will be given the B1900 unless he/she has specificaly applied/interviewed for that position.
We have ONE B1900. I have no idea why you think we have a lot of seats to fill on that ONE aircraft.
We do however have a lot of seats to fill on the 120 Jets we operate.Yes, people might find themselves on a Bravo or 400 but we dont promise a GV to anybody.
In fact, as you know, if we think a candidate is a quick upgrade he/she is more likely to start on a small or mid cabin jet but NOT on the 1900.
I appreciate that for some reason unknown to me you seem to not have enjoyed your time in NetJets but that should not be reason to intentionally spread wrong information about the company.
Feel free to address any issues you feel need resolving but please stickto facts not fiction.
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Netjetter, Who has been spreading false information for years? Ask the pilots how reliable your words are and how often we have been misleaded and messed around, or plainly screwed.
You speak about garantees, there is none. Fact is that people join netjets not knowing what they are going to fly, and not to forget, they join as a co-pilot. Not all airline captains are going to like that, co-pilot on a beechjet, 1900 or Bravo, including the lower salary. Most upgrades do not happen under a year, so that is a big paycut.
do not preach honesty to those who know it first hand you don't. Newcomers do not know how you lie and cheat and therefore we stick our head out to warn the unwary.
You say we are frusterated? I enjoyed the operation, and the fantastic collegues but the management made the company so sick that I , like many others left, and in the end , if you want to stay somewhere, you have to enjoy it. It is not only about the money and reading your comments I can see that he company has still not understand allthough that does not suprise me as the old boys are still there pulling the strings.That's why smeagel, bizantin and me and others are fore. We warn people not to just believe your blue eyes.............
You speak about garantees, there is none. Fact is that people join netjets not knowing what they are going to fly, and not to forget, they join as a co-pilot. Not all airline captains are going to like that, co-pilot on a beechjet, 1900 or Bravo, including the lower salary. Most upgrades do not happen under a year, so that is a big paycut.
do not preach honesty to those who know it first hand you don't. Newcomers do not know how you lie and cheat and therefore we stick our head out to warn the unwary.
You say we are frusterated? I enjoyed the operation, and the fantastic collegues but the management made the company so sick that I , like many others left, and in the end , if you want to stay somewhere, you have to enjoy it. It is not only about the money and reading your comments I can see that he company has still not understand allthough that does not suprise me as the old boys are still there pulling the strings.That's why smeagel, bizantin and me and others are fore. We warn people not to just believe your blue eyes.............
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my opinion
well having nearly 1500 TT 250 TP ..
I would love to fly the 1900 ...
Honestly
I climb the ladder ..the old fashioned way ...at least i can look back and say>been there ,seen it ,was fun ...
Only my Opinion ...now back to the question ,with above mentioned Hours am i a Candidate worth to go for the Road Show?
Cheers
I would love to fly the 1900 ...
Honestly
I climb the ladder ..the old fashioned way ...at least i can look back and say>been there ,seen it ,was fun ...
Only my Opinion ...now back to the question ,with above mentioned Hours am i a Candidate worth to go for the Road Show?
Cheers
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Insideview, we are sure you are a nice and you are welcome in trying to join. Apply and see if they call you. I am sure the notice will be short. However do not expect Netjets to be THE company. 95% of the guys over 3 years are looking for something else. It is not a long term company. Just a step for better.
It is very sad because as hawkerpilot said, there is a tremendous potential for making a great company but as long as they run the company this way, pilots will just keep leaving.
...and the worst is coming...
It is very sad because as hawkerpilot said, there is a tremendous potential for making a great company but as long as they run the company this way, pilots will just keep leaving.
...and the worst is coming...
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Dear Inside view,
Thank you for reminding me that their are still people like you with a different perspective of the jobmarket. I too like most strugled long time ago to get that precious time on complex aircraft so I please apply and join to get the experience. When I am making people aware how netjets really is I admitt I am looking at captains only ,who I want to avoid giving up their precious, though perhaps boring job to come to Netjets, as for netjets you are a disposable item, they are not expecting you to stay more than 3 years and trim their behaviour accordingly. And looking at your age and experience, you do well to join, but do not get stuck in this company. Good luck, you will enjoy the collegues and the flying. HP
Thank you for reminding me that their are still people like you with a different perspective of the jobmarket. I too like most strugled long time ago to get that precious time on complex aircraft so I please apply and join to get the experience. When I am making people aware how netjets really is I admitt I am looking at captains only ,who I want to avoid giving up their precious, though perhaps boring job to come to Netjets, as for netjets you are a disposable item, they are not expecting you to stay more than 3 years and trim their behaviour accordingly. And looking at your age and experience, you do well to join, but do not get stuck in this company. Good luck, you will enjoy the collegues and the flying. HP