Netjets FA Abonndoned In Moscow
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Originally Posted by Scambuster
oh no.....it wasn't HIM again?
"Him" who is conspicuous by his absence from this Netjets thread? (A most unusual occurrence for "Him").
If that's the "Him" to whom you are referring then, yes. It was Him again.
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thedeadseawasonlysick CL300.
It is not uncommon at all. I have frequently carried FA's with no visa. Provided the company has faxed the details to the FBO, it only takes about half an hour to get a temporary visa. The difficulty arises when they haven't. Legally the FA can only stay for three hours without a visa. After that, it becomes very much a question of who's in charge of immigration on that particular day.
Earlier this year, I arrived with not only an FA without a visa, but also both the passengers! We were supposed to transit, but could not leave until the passengers were sorted out. Netjets had not informed the pax that a visa was required! However, I have to wonder at the intelligence of a businessman who thought that Russia was visaless. Suffice it to say that Netjets were prepared to do anything rather than the obvious, which was to take the pax and the FA out of the country. At various times jail was a distinct possibility for all three. This did not seem to concern Netjets, only the possibility that we could not do the next sector! After about six hours of negotiations we finally departed for another country with the pax. We then of course found that we did not have enough hours left on the tour to do the trip anyway. Plus ca change. (Is that right?)
It is not uncommon at all. I have frequently carried FA's with no visa. Provided the company has faxed the details to the FBO, it only takes about half an hour to get a temporary visa. The difficulty arises when they haven't. Legally the FA can only stay for three hours without a visa. After that, it becomes very much a question of who's in charge of immigration on that particular day.
Earlier this year, I arrived with not only an FA without a visa, but also both the passengers! We were supposed to transit, but could not leave until the passengers were sorted out. Netjets had not informed the pax that a visa was required! However, I have to wonder at the intelligence of a businessman who thought that Russia was visaless. Suffice it to say that Netjets were prepared to do anything rather than the obvious, which was to take the pax and the FA out of the country. At various times jail was a distinct possibility for all three. This did not seem to concern Netjets, only the possibility that we could not do the next sector! After about six hours of negotiations we finally departed for another country with the pax. We then of course found that we did not have enough hours left on the tour to do the trip anyway. Plus ca change. (Is that right?)
I was in the 125 at Netjets now on the DA2EASy, I think like all of us at NTA, I had (and still have) my share of CIS flying and beyond. You are describing how to fix the problem, my position is : how to prevent this from happening?
Like I said above the company has outstanding dedication for crews, proof is that in your case you DID fly out; whatever the cost (may be revenue flight a factor).
I will continue the discussion in the private forum, for the in and outs; I know, some voice will raise and shout : what do you have to hide and such..BUT I signed a confidential agreement when I joigned and I will never go a way to breach this one.
On our forum it is said that this event occured in december, why BARRISTA is bringing this one on the table in April? Shtstiring ?
There is mishaps in ANY company, why would one stigmatize a single event ? after 4 months ?
