Single Pilot Citations
Single Pilot Citations
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From: Variing
I do fly both types (B200&CJ2, [CIISP/S/II & V before]), occationally single hand (back and forth from maintenance).
The CJ2 is super easy, the B200 is easy...you just organize yourself a little more on the CJ, as things happen a bit quicker...
BTW,never had a problem with those lovely PT6ses, just tilt the aeroplane a bit when one´s in your view
The CJ2 is super easy, the B200 is easy...you just organize yourself a little more on the CJ, as things happen a bit quicker...
BTW,never had a problem with those lovely PT6ses, just tilt the aeroplane a bit when one´s in your view
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Airking, would you say the CJ2 is easier than the Bravo or Encore single pilot. Also do any of these types have speedbrakes as standard. Thanks
Last edited by farrari; 1st April 2002 at 06:17.
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From: Jersey
CJ2, Bravo and Encore are all pretty easy to fly, but only the Bravo (on US register) and CJ2 can be flown single crew as far as I know. Best of the lot is the Excel if you ever get a chance to have a go in one!!
All citations come with speedbrakes as standard - apart from the Citation X they are all manually controlled devices - not sure if the X takes control of them or not. Only concern is that they all make the airframe shake like it is the end of the world and the noise factor increases by 200%!!!
Good luck
All citations come with speedbrakes as standard - apart from the Citation X they are all manually controlled devices - not sure if the X takes control of them or not. Only concern is that they all make the airframe shake like it is the end of the world and the noise factor increases by 200%!!!
Good luck
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From: Variing
Hi farrari,
I haven´t flown Bravo or encore, only the older ones...as the airframe is pretty much unchanged and the big difference is the trailing gear,engines and avionics, I´d say they are all the same. They all are very stable IFR platforms, easy to operate. The real drawback of all small citations is the singlehand cockpitlayout, real 2 man crew work is nearly impossible (all switches in the left corner !)
But I´m a captain, so I´m always allowed to fiddle around
I haven´t flown Bravo or encore, only the older ones...as the airframe is pretty much unchanged and the big difference is the trailing gear,engines and avionics, I´d say they are all the same. They all are very stable IFR platforms, easy to operate. The real drawback of all small citations is the singlehand cockpitlayout, real 2 man crew work is nearly impossible (all switches in the left corner !)
But I´m a captain, so I´m always allowed to fiddle around
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From: Planet Earth for a short visit
Airking, don't agree with your comment " things happen faster in a CJ"
I flew the 7 for a while--no big deal.
If you fly in minutes instead of knots then nothing will take you by surprise. A minute always takes sixty seconds whether you're in a Blackbird or a C150. All flights require planning
I flew the 7 for a while--no big deal.
If you fly in minutes instead of knots then nothing will take you by surprise. A minute always takes sixty seconds whether you're in a Blackbird or a C150. All flights require planning
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From: Variing
@silverhawk:
What I meant by "as things happen a bit quicker... " is, IMO easy to understand, no advanced physics or so...
eg.:
CJ 2 travels at 6,6 NM / min, BE20 at 4,6nm/min (O-wind, ISA / FL280). I might need 2 minutes to get ATIS (eventually longer if eg in FRANCE) and pick the correct plate. Add another 2 minutes for briefing and nav setting, and the CJ2 is 8 nm ahead of the good old KingAir.(I travelled the distance QUICKER!!!/a seven jockey like you would say: a bit quicker)
I admit, my pen falls with the same speed to the cockpit floor (takes the same time)
@
If you fly in minutes instead of knots then nothing will take you by surprise. A minute always takes sixty seconds whether you're in a Blackbird or a C150.
More or less true, Al Einstein had a slightly different opinion, but he was no pilot, so to hell with it
@
All flights require planning
perfectly correct ! I always plan my flights !
To be serious again :
take a short trip (say 50nm), and you will work harder in the CJ to cope all the things you need to do, that ´s all I meant
What I meant by "as things happen a bit quicker... " is, IMO easy to understand, no advanced physics or so...
eg.:
CJ 2 travels at 6,6 NM / min, BE20 at 4,6nm/min (O-wind, ISA / FL280). I might need 2 minutes to get ATIS (eventually longer if eg in FRANCE) and pick the correct plate. Add another 2 minutes for briefing and nav setting, and the CJ2 is 8 nm ahead of the good old KingAir.(I travelled the distance QUICKER!!!/a seven jockey like you would say: a bit quicker)
I admit, my pen falls with the same speed to the cockpit floor (takes the same time)
@
If you fly in minutes instead of knots then nothing will take you by surprise. A minute always takes sixty seconds whether you're in a Blackbird or a C150.
More or less true, Al Einstein had a slightly different opinion, but he was no pilot, so to hell with it
@
All flights require planning
perfectly correct ! I always plan my flights !
To be serious again :
take a short trip (say 50nm), and you will work harder in the CJ to cope all the things you need to do, that ´s all I meant
