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farrari 26th Mar 2002 08:54

Single Pilot Citations
 
Any one fly single pilot on citations, which ones and how do you find it? Is it more simple than say B200 King air.

flyboy2 29th Mar 2002 00:33

Jets are mostly easier to fly than props.. .Citations are easy.

Lima Xray 29th Mar 2002 12:40

B200 is more forgiving, both easy good planes. (Side) view from B200 is very bad as engines are in the way, Citation views are very good abeit a greenhouse in the summer.

Airking 31st Mar 2002 17:40

I do fly both types (B200&CJ2, [CIISP/S/II & V before]), occationally single hand (back and forth from maintenance).
The CJ2 is super easy, the B200 is easy...you just organize yourself a little more on the CJ, as things happen a bit quicker...
BTW,never had a problem with those lovely PT6ses, just tilt the aeroplane a bit when one´s in your view :D :D :D

farrari 1st Apr 2002 06:07

:p Airking, would you say the CJ2 is easier than the Bravo or Encore single pilot. Also do any of these types have speedbrakes as standard. Thanks

jerseymilkman 2nd Apr 2002 14:21

CJ2, Bravo and Encore are all pretty easy to fly, but only the Bravo (on US register) and CJ2 can be flown single crew as far as I know. Best of the lot is the Excel if you ever get a chance to have a go in one!!

All citations come with speedbrakes as standard - apart from the Citation X they are all manually controlled devices - not sure if the X takes control of them or not. Only concern is that they all make the airframe shake like it is the end of the world and the noise factor increases by 200%!!!

Good luck

:)

Airking 3rd Apr 2002 06:54

Hi farrari,
I haven´t flown Bravo or encore, only the older ones...as the airframe is pretty much unchanged and the big difference is the trailing gear,engines and avionics, I´d say they are all the same. They all are very stable IFR platforms, easy to operate. The real drawback of all small citations is the singlehand cockpitlayout, real 2 man crew work is nearly impossible (all switches in the left corner !)
But I´m a captain, so I´m always allowed to fiddle around:D :D :D

silverhawk 7th Apr 2002 17:43

Airking, don't agree with your comment " things happen faster in a CJ"

I flew the 7 for a while--no big deal.

If you fly in minutes instead of knots then nothing will take you by surprise. A minute always takes sixty seconds whether you're in a Blackbird or a C150. All flights require planning

Airking 7th Apr 2002 18:56

@silverhawk:
What I meant by "as things happen a bit quicker... " is, IMO easy to understand, no advanced physics or so...
eg.:
CJ 2 travels at 6,6 NM / min, BE20 at 4,6nm/min (O-wind, ISA / FL280). I might need 2 minutes to get ATIS (eventually longer if eg in FRANCE) and pick the correct plate. Add another 2 minutes for briefing and nav setting, and the CJ2 is 8 nm ahead of the good old KingAir.(I travelled the distance QUICKER!!!/a seven jockey like you would say: a bit quicker)
I admit, my pen falls with the same speed to the cockpit floor (takes the same time):D :D :D
@
If you fly in minutes instead of knots then nothing will take you by surprise. A minute always takes sixty seconds whether you're in a Blackbird or a C150.
More or less true, Al Einstein had a slightly different opinion, but he was no pilot, so to hell with it
@
All flights require planning
perfectly correct ! I always plan my flights !

To be serious again :
take a short trip (say 50nm), and you will work harder in the CJ to cope all the things you need to do, that ´s all I meant


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