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Old 26th May 2002, 17:54
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OK, it's

G-CZAR, Citation 560
G-HCFR, Hawker 800
G-ICFR, Hawker 800
G-NCFR, Hawker 700
G-OCFR, Lear 35

So, that's only 5 aircraft being offered for sale non-RVSM'd and EGPWS'd at higher than market rates.

I stand corrected!
 
Old 26th May 2002, 21:26
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To add yet more woe, one of the 800s is non standard honeywell (as the 1000s) avionics. Would you want to buy an aircraft that hasn't got a ready made RVSM package approved never mind installed?
True the 800XPs and 1000Bs have Honeywell avionics and an RVSM SSEC curve programmed in to them but this is an oddball (1 other like it) 800B........CAA requests for flight trials to prove curve, 'B' conditions, certification....blah blah blah.



The 700 can be modified for RVSM/EGPWS fairly easily and was waiting to be done so until Chauffair went belly up.
I don't know what the other 800 or the L35 are like.

I hope the takeover is cleared up soon for all concerned.
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Old 27th May 2002, 10:02
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I understand that the Lear 35 is a no, no when it comes down to being RVSM'd.
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RVSM and EGPWS on the Learjet 35A aren't strictly a "no-no", but they are very expensive to do.

The Lear 35 is so packed with Avionics in every bit of spare space that the equipment required simply wouldn't fit.

I know that there was a company in Cranfield working on a solution which would work with Citations and the like.

The Lear could still operate private cat below FL245 so you could always buy it for booze runs to Cannes. Although the runway's a little bit short for the Lear...

(I know, it's possible, but it's a wee bit short!)
 
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I know of at least 2 LJ35's operating on Public Transport certificates in Europe and both have been EGPWS's and RVSM'd.
Your comment about the equipment not filliting is incorrect.
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Would you be referring to NEX?

I had heard the same as Daifly has just stated. That there simply is no room to put the equipments. That's what I meant by a no-no, just didn't bother to elaborate.
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Just to clarify a detail - the Lear did not belong to Chauffair and is therefore not part of the deal. Just parked there for convenience until owner sells it.
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Hi Mzee, hope the new berth is to your liking, long live Unwins Airlines.
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I thought G-OCFR did belong to CFR but G-GJET was for sale sperately.
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I will be test flying the first UK RVSM lear35 this week,so we know that the kit fits,we just dont know if it works yet!

P.S. Who owns the other two approved aircraft? I have seen the german one at Dusseldorf, but thats the only one i know of
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TAG Aviation operate the 2 35's out of Geneva
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Apparently the Australian company mentioned previously (Calljet???) have definately bought them.

The Honeywell avionics equipped Hawker 800 is about to have its EGPWS and RVSM mods completed in the very near future.

I'm trying to take up not being cynical, so I won't add anything else!!

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