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Daifly 10th Mar 2002 16:52

Chauffair sold?
 
So, who's bought it then?. .. .A European based operator has apparently paid $17m for the assets, but at the moment I can't find out who.

KERDUNKER 10th Mar 2002 21:54

Where did you get your info and please tell more.....am more than interested.

incipientspin 14th Mar 2002 17:45

Daifly i think you've been hearing chinese whispers...

Daifly 15th Mar 2002 02:53

KERDUNKER - it was from a decent source at Farnborough, it'll have to remain at that though.. .Have heard some more over the past week, which reenforces that it was an assets only purchase. The administrators are at Farnborough until the end of the month, I'd guess that the prospect of a sale as a going concern is too far down the river now. A great pity, there were some great people at CFR (some of which have found other work, which is good), and they certainly didn't deserve the ignominious ending that came.. .. .INCIPIENT SPIN - give me some credit please. Having read all of your posts about PPSC and SFT I can't imagine you're right in the thick of things... Chinese Whispers aren't what keep every aspect of aviation going.

incipientspin 15th Mar 2002 03:39

Daifly i'm not having a go i've just heard there is a certain Australian with a vested interest talking to the bank...

srs what? 4th Apr 2002 15:46

I've not heard any news recently but I think it's unlikely the company would be taken on by anyone as a going concern. Not only was there 18 million of finance left on aircraft worth about 10 there was also a £10 million trading deficit.

Daifly 5th Apr 2002 18:08

Hiding...?

:p

AlanM 28th Apr 2002 10:54

ANY MORE NEWS!!??
 
Just wondered if anyone has heard any more about CFR??

Hope the crews got other jobs.

No more pics like this

NigD 28th Apr 2002 16:51

Gents

I heard GAMA aviation have bought Chauffair. Whether as a going concern or not, I dont know.

This is just a chinese whisper, though from a usually reliable oriental bloke!!!

Regards

NigD

MSoftAir 2nd May 2002 22:01

I think Gama is renting the offices that Chauffair used in the taq building, nothing else.

Mzee 7th May 2002 18:38

Chauffair
 
Hi All

Thought a few words of clarity might help:

Not yet sold, yes there is interest but not as a going concern. Our MBO failed not through lack of commitment or sound finance. It was a good plan but we got sidelined by bigger money and perceived bank disinterest in us. (How come they couldn't stop what was going on sindrome!)

Yes we were all owed variously considerable sums and no there was not such a huge trading deficit as quoted. The total a/c value is only what someone will pay but is reckoned to be reasonable at £12m

Only 5 pilots have found jobs including another one today thank goodness and I start next Wed. Ops have all found jobs but only a few of the admin and Eng staff have.

All this heartache for the crass incompetent management and greed of the owner.

GAMA have only taken over the rental of the offices from TAG

:mad: Still bitter for all the waste of good people, a classic in how not to manage.

Bailed Out 15th May 2002 03:15

Best wishes
 
Mzee, Compassion is so rare today that you deserve acknowledgement. I'm not a former employee but that's my loss. I was however an "observer" and anyone who failed to realise you and your staff's potential as a "going concern" missed a unique opportunity together with a very good PROFIT centre and a fun business to boot....If only I'd had the resources at the time......

srs what? 23rd May 2002 15:38

I have indeed heard the very same.

incipientspin 23rd May 2002 19:33

Sorry Daifly you were saying...........:p

On the subject has anyone heard of "calljets"?

Daifly 24th May 2002 07:42

It's good to see you're not bitter Incipient Spin...

It's a strange one though. Only one of the aircraft, the 800, is RVSM'd and GPWS'd, the others, of which there are what, seven?, aren't. To get them all public transport-able again needs anything up to $150,000 per aircraft spending.

PWC are seeking prices for the aircraft way in excess of the market value for Private Cat. aircraft, which is what they are until the upgrades are completed, so why would you spend all the money doing that when there are cheaper aircraft available in the States.

The company's momentum has gone, the clients have gone off with the various Ops people to their new companies. Why take on such a challenge at such a time in the industry?

I was told by one of TAG's senior people, and I mean SENIOR, that it was a European operator - hence my post. WS, I seem to recall, has some involvement on the continent? I might be wrong.

Anyway, off to study for my ATPL's, just like Incipient Spin - my industry advisor...

incipientspin 24th May 2002 11:40

Not bitter Daifly just don't enjoy being patronised,
anyway no hard feelings and good luck with the atpl's.......;)

NigD 24th May 2002 13:08

Daifly

The 800 is not RVSM's or EGPWS'd yet as I believe the bill for installing the equipment hasn't been paid yet, so there is an open modification on that aircraft and therefore it's grounded until it is paid.
Under the current climate that may be a while.

Daifly 24th May 2002 21:58

Phew, that makes 8 non-AOC aircraft for sale at above market rates.

Anyone who's surprised that WS hasn't paid then, postcards to...

KERDUNKER 25th May 2002 22:17

"WS" Would that be Wayne Sleep ? Oh and it is actualy four aircraft awaiting rescue, one C560, two 125/800 s and one fun 125/700 (Have flown all of them!)Toodle pip.

srs what? 26th May 2002 09:30

The story I heard was the an Australian company had bought (but not yet paid for) the 3 125's and the Engineering side. Nothing else.

From memory the Citation V had some major undercarraige work to be completed.


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