What Chance For A Fair Deal In Netjets Europ?
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Thanks for the information. I fly Air Force (But will be a Netjets driver soon!) and I already deduct a lot. It's a deal with the tax administration. They agreed that it was fair that I could deduct my cleaning, hairdresser et other stuff even if I wasn't an Air France bus driver !! happy to have met a nice person the day I went to argue !!!
I'll have to learn all those little tips after the Indoc !!
I guess you're French !!
I'll have to learn all those little tips after the Indoc !!
I guess you're French !!
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Thanks!
Don't y'all just love tax and tax rules!? 
Thank you for the info! Sounds like a good pay deal then!
Got a pm saying something about allowance from nje for a tax lawyer? Has anybody else heard about this?
Thank you for the info! Sounds like a good pay deal then!
Got a pm saying something about allowance from nje for a tax lawyer? Has anybody else heard about this?
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You are correct, it depends a lot whith whom you deal with at the tax office. French Air Force DO have the assimilisation of state empoyees which is the same as AF..Yep french South East Corner
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Bonjour,
Not sure FAF as the same tax deal as AF. We're not "registre A". My argument was that it was unfair to pay more tax than an AF pilot with half of the salary! They agreed and now I deduct ! I think everything goes smoothly when we explain things (With tax administration or in a cockpit !)
I'm also South , but not in the corner !
. Got to move soon near a gateway
Not sure FAF as the same tax deal as AF. We're not "registre A". My argument was that it was unfair to pay more tax than an AF pilot with half of the salary! They agreed and now I deduct ! I think everything goes smoothly when we explain things (With tax administration or in a cockpit !)
I'm also South , but not in the corner !
. Got to move soon near a gateway
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I have sim at Netjets in april!
What I am wondering about is the tax situation.
Do I have to pay tax in portugal, england and in my home country (Austria)?
And what about my social protection, if I have to go to a doctor or hospital, do I have to pay it myself?
Thx
What I am wondering about is the tax situation.
Do I have to pay tax in portugal, england and in my home country (Austria)?
And what about my social protection, if I have to go to a doctor or hospital, do I have to pay it myself?
Thx
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Oh come on!!!
Think about it. Do you know anywhere in the world where they will get you to pay taxes in 3 countries ???
For crying out loud, the endless stupid questions BEFORE you guys go to interview is so tiring.
ALL will be explained if you get through.
Think about it. Do you know anywhere in the world where they will get you to pay taxes in 3 countries ???
For crying out loud, the endless stupid questions BEFORE you guys go to interview is so tiring.
ALL will be explained if you get through.
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ok, so, if they explain everything, it is ok for me, but there a lot of rumours around.
And if I would have to give 50% tax of my income, netjets would not be interesting anymore.
And if I would have to give 50% tax of my income, netjets would not be interesting anymore.
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Scroll Lock, yes I do know a place where you pay in three places! It´s called NET JETS EUROPE! There are quite a few countries in the EU that do not accept the fact that we work for under a British contract, pay 25% taxes in Portugal. This only suits NJE and IS NOT LEGALY NECESSARY! In the end, many people will pay 5 to 9% in UK, 25% in Portugal, and up to another 15 to 20% in their own country! On top of that there will be NO DEDUCTIONS because you only get those if you are in a established and recognised system, which this one is not! This is just a FRANKISTEIN NJE SPECIAL, in which once again, the crews come out loosing! Yes, many people will end up paying about 50% taxes, and I think that will include Austrians.
CL300, if its true that per diem is taxable in quite a few countries, which i believe, then the excuse given to us by management for not raising the perdium after 5 years is another load of COW DUNG! They say that they cannot raise it because the maximum approved by the UK tax authorities tax free is 7o euros! Raise it for everybody, I dont care if the british have to pay tax on it, SO DO WE!!!
CL300, if its true that per diem is taxable in quite a few countries, which i believe, then the excuse given to us by management for not raising the perdium after 5 years is another load of COW DUNG! They say that they cannot raise it because the maximum approved by the UK tax authorities tax free is 7o euros! Raise it for everybody, I dont care if the british have to pay tax on it, SO DO WE!!!
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European unified tax system isn't for tomorrow !!! If I have to pay 50% tax, I think I'll officially live in a 3 square inch mailbox in Caiman island !!! Let's ask our politicians the best way to procede !!
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Well then suchiman, guess your CV is already on many desks.
As I and others have already said....if you don't like it here, then just leave.
The deal and all it's FAQ's was well represented and there is a minority of disallusioned 'non-workers' who continue to bitch and moan.
I bet youre the type who also grounds aircraft for cockpit light bulbs U/S !!!
rant over
As I and others have already said....if you don't like it here, then just leave.
The deal and all it's FAQ's was well represented and there is a minority of disallusioned 'non-workers' who continue to bitch and moan.
I bet youre the type who also grounds aircraft for cockpit light bulbs U/S !!!
rant over
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"I bet youre the type who also grounds aircraft for cockpit light bulbs U/S !!"
I hope you are not the guy who always flies arround with several snags on the plane and leaves it up to the next crew!
Cockpit lightbulbs do have a function and if they are inop, you're supposed to either MEL it or ground it!
About the "deal" and the FAQ's, it was well sold to us!
It was created in a hurry, with little thought of the consequenses for several countries.
It again, only benefits the UK residents!
I hope you are not the guy who always flies arround with several snags on the plane and leaves it up to the next crew!
Cockpit lightbulbs do have a function and if they are inop, you're supposed to either MEL it or ground it!
About the "deal" and the FAQ's, it was well sold to us!
It was created in a hurry, with little thought of the consequenses for several countries.
It again, only benefits the UK residents!
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For crying out loud, the endless stupid questions BEFORE you guys go to interview is so tiring.
ALL will be explained if you get through.
ALL will be explained if you get through.
Why waste everyones' time going to an interview if you can find out beforehand that the package that will be offered isn't going to be acceptable?
If the endless stupid questions are tiring you out, then turn off your computer and go to sleep
For those who have posted good info here cheers it has been much appreciated. Unforunately, for now, NJ's lifestyle doesn't make up for the financial loss for me personally but best of luck to those of you that are heading their way.
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Cockpit lights can be changed by aircrew.
Questions ARE tiring, especially if the person concerned is too lazy to use the SEARCH function on this webite. ( I believe 4HP agreed with me last time out )
Questions ARE tiring, especially if the person concerned is too lazy to use the SEARCH function on this webite. ( I believe 4HP agreed with me last time out )
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As charming as ever eh, Scroll Lock?
To summarise your recent posts:
1. 'Anyone who works in NJE and objects to the way they are grossly mistreated should just leave' (which many are already doing). Never mind the years of effort they have already invested on the promise of things improving later "When we make a profit". Well, they finally admitted to making a profit, where is the reward for those who helped them get there? I don't mean the bonusses paid to management, I mean for the ones who actually grafted long before you and many others got there.
2. 'Anyone considering joining the company is not allowed to ask questions beforehand but instead should waste their time applying only to find out the dubious tax arrangements later on'. Many of the potential applicants are sufficiently qualified and experienced to be in demand in the current market, not people unable to secure 'decent' jobs. They are professionals and deserve to be treated as such. Your dismissal of their (genuine) concerns is arrogant.
I'm sure you meant to write 'disillusioned' whereas you wrote "disallusioned". Allusion means to make passing reference. You know, in much the same way NJE management make only passing reference to the less pleasant aspects of their enforced contract changes. The ones they impose on their workforce without consultation and that make a contract with the company not worth the paper it's written on.
Oh, whoop de doo. 4HP agreed with you once. Does that grant you some kind of special status? That must have been after the time you threatened to identify me to NJE management which if I know PPRuNe must have brought you very close to a ban. Not quite the shining light of the forum you would have us believe though, are you?
I agree with you on one point. Anyone thinking of joining NJE should use the 'Search' function and read all the old threads paying particular attention to those that explain how management treat their staff.
To summarise your recent posts:
1. 'Anyone who works in NJE and objects to the way they are grossly mistreated should just leave' (which many are already doing). Never mind the years of effort they have already invested on the promise of things improving later "When we make a profit". Well, they finally admitted to making a profit, where is the reward for those who helped them get there? I don't mean the bonusses paid to management, I mean for the ones who actually grafted long before you and many others got there.
2. 'Anyone considering joining the company is not allowed to ask questions beforehand but instead should waste their time applying only to find out the dubious tax arrangements later on'. Many of the potential applicants are sufficiently qualified and experienced to be in demand in the current market, not people unable to secure 'decent' jobs. They are professionals and deserve to be treated as such. Your dismissal of their (genuine) concerns is arrogant.
I'm sure you meant to write 'disillusioned' whereas you wrote "disallusioned". Allusion means to make passing reference. You know, in much the same way NJE management make only passing reference to the less pleasant aspects of their enforced contract changes. The ones they impose on their workforce without consultation and that make a contract with the company not worth the paper it's written on.
Oh, whoop de doo. 4HP agreed with you once. Does that grant you some kind of special status? That must have been after the time you threatened to identify me to NJE management which if I know PPRuNe must have brought you very close to a ban. Not quite the shining light of the forum you would have us believe though, are you?
I agree with you on one point. Anyone thinking of joining NJE should use the 'Search' function and read all the old threads paying particular attention to those that explain how management treat their staff.
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now that playtime is over
bookkeeper and others
the exact situation may vary by country, depending on the type of bilateral agreements in force. Most countries have the type of agreement where, once taxed in Portugal, your salary will not be taxed again at home. Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland are among those.
Denmark, Italy, Spain and Sweden have the other type. There you will get credit for the tax paid in Portugal, but you will still have to pay the difference between the 25% and the higher local rates. In the end, this should be the same as paying the normal rates at home.
If you want to make sure, check the website of your national tax service. In my case (NL), all the bilaterals are there. Search for double taxation treaties, place of effective management.
Erik
the exact situation may vary by country, depending on the type of bilateral agreements in force. Most countries have the type of agreement where, once taxed in Portugal, your salary will not be taxed again at home. Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland are among those.
Denmark, Italy, Spain and Sweden have the other type. There you will get credit for the tax paid in Portugal, but you will still have to pay the difference between the 25% and the higher local rates. In the end, this should be the same as paying the normal rates at home.
If you want to make sure, check the website of your national tax service. In my case (NL), all the bilaterals are there. Search for double taxation treaties, place of effective management.
Erik
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Keep me out of this one please guys.
And by all means strike up a lively, even heated debate.
But if you're going hurl insults please do it by PM or email & spare us observers the invictive.
4HP
And by all means strike up a lively, even heated debate.
But if you're going hurl insults please do it by PM or email & spare us observers the invictive.
4HP
