IJM Dispute
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IJM Dispute
I am a former IJM Pilot, whose identity will be know to many of you.
I was employed for one year (less one day), and almost 6 months later, was contracted to carry out a freelance tour.
My salary and expenses for this tour are being with held, as a result of alleged financial irregularities last year.
The purpose of this post is two fold:
Has any other pilot, had a similar confrontation. ?
Ensure that all those leaving the company obtain a written confirmation from the company signed by (the man), and also the off shore emplyment entity.
I have started legal procedings agains IJM, but as the nature of the company intrastructure this is complicated.
Best regards from the greener grass......
I was employed for one year (less one day), and almost 6 months later, was contracted to carry out a freelance tour.
My salary and expenses for this tour are being with held, as a result of alleged financial irregularities last year.
The purpose of this post is two fold:
Has any other pilot, had a similar confrontation. ?
Ensure that all those leaving the company obtain a written confirmation from the company signed by (the man), and also the off shore emplyment entity.
I have started legal procedings agains IJM, but as the nature of the company intrastructure this is complicated.
Best regards from the greener grass......
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You are not the only one with such a story... I am still owed mucho dinero by a former employer for some work i did after resigning...
The simple truth is that management companies are whores for their rich customers, and therefore managing directors for those companies are essentially pimps. don't trust them... for anything... ever.
Now, on a cash in advance basis, i still gladly work with them..
The simple truth is that management companies are whores for their rich customers, and therefore managing directors for those companies are essentially pimps. don't trust them... for anything... ever.
Now, on a cash in advance basis, i still gladly work with them..
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Surprise surprise
From my initial post I have received several messages of support.
I amnot able to mention the names, or the content of the communications, but it appears that I am not the first, and also at least two of the Gulfstream 5 pilots in Moscow have resigned also.
Most expenses claims are adjusted downward by a significant ammount.
Stand by for the Flight International requests for team players.
ijm
I amnot able to mention the names, or the content of the communications, but it appears that I am not the first, and also at least two of the Gulfstream 5 pilots in Moscow have resigned also.
Most expenses claims are adjusted downward by a significant ammount.
Stand by for the Flight International requests for team players.
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I think individuals are quite capable of deciding what they need/want to know, especialy when its a conversation about a possible rogue company that might be considered as future employment. If its private it should not be on a public forum.
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Cheating
If people are cheating the company they should not wonder about sanctions.
I personally know former GV IJM pilots paying all private expenses (thousands of dollars) on the company card. --> If such a person is not getting all expenses back when leaving the company its as expected. I know other former IJM pilots not sending the expense reports and/or invoices, wondering that they dont get the money, but telling people that they dont pay.
That for every individual is his own fluky farrier!
There are also pilots who left in a very good manner, how it comes????
I personally know former GV IJM pilots paying all private expenses (thousands of dollars) on the company card. --> If such a person is not getting all expenses back when leaving the company its as expected. I know other former IJM pilots not sending the expense reports and/or invoices, wondering that they dont get the money, but telling people that they dont pay.
That for every individual is his own fluky farrier!
There are also pilots who left in a very good manner, how it comes????
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1 days notice of termination
Does this count as unreasonable......Thats what I received, and then NO contractual notice payment...
It was claimed I had another position lined up, so they felt they were not obliged to honour the contract....
The situation is now in the hands of an international recovery company, so I should not say any more.
It was claimed I had another position lined up, so they felt they were not obliged to honour the contract....
The situation is now in the hands of an international recovery company, so I should not say any more.
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I have a friend who works for a company based in a tiny European company who was offered a certain pay rate to perform as a crew-member. He refused the pay rate. He was then told to submit his pay requirements as a contractor and was asked to do the trips (he has to pay for his own recurrents, etc.). When he did same, they withheld his pay except for the offered (and refused) rate and are also withholding part of his expenses.
The bottom line is that some of these management companies are, simply, thieves. The prospective employee needs to do his due diligence and think twice about getting involved with them. I think the legal recourse is poor and expensive.
All I can suggest is to with-hold your services if you don't get paid correctly. In many cases, you are the only pilot so the management company can't crew the a/c. Leaving the a/c while enroute might also be a tactic, if you have decided you can't win.
The bottom line is that some of these management companies are, simply, thieves. The prospective employee needs to do his due diligence and think twice about getting involved with them. I think the legal recourse is poor and expensive.
All I can suggest is to with-hold your services if you don't get paid correctly. In many cases, you are the only pilot so the management company can't crew the a/c. Leaving the a/c while enroute might also be a tactic, if you have decided you can't win.
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Has anyone thought of getting paid BEFORE the starter switch is moved to the "ON" position???? In general, most services provided over a period of time require a large % be paid up front. Ie; plumbers, carpenters, lawyers ect,ect,. We are offering a service like EVERY OTHER business. They will continue to do what they have done unless we change the rules. Sounds like something I read at the university in business class. Just think, these operators may even respect us if they suspect one bit of business sense coming out of the pilot ranks.
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Just my 2 cents
When you see that your boss wants to hold your expenses and salary, use the company credit card, just take the cash needed to cover expenses, salaries, etc... owed and that's the end of the discussion.
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The company has now increased it demands for "my debt", it has doubled from 10k US to 20k US, sounds like the accounting system is as efficient as ever.
Was I the only IJM pilot who has not received ANY SEP training, regardless of being an AOC operation, and now a JAA AOC operation.????
I have received sereral PMs from persons who are considering applying for the posts currently advertised. It is difficult to answer these honestly.
Perhaps others might wish to praise the company.
Litigation continues,
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Was I the only IJM pilot who has not received ANY SEP training, regardless of being an AOC operation, and now a JAA AOC operation.????
I have received sereral PMs from persons who are considering applying for the posts currently advertised. It is difficult to answer these honestly.
Perhaps others might wish to praise the company.
Litigation continues,
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I'm a pilot flying for IJM and I never like'd your behaviour. We inhouse have some rumours about you, trying to cheat, maybe even stealing money from the company and other unprofessional incidents. The company is having about 50 Pilots and you are the only one I know beeing frustrated, most probably about yourself and maybe unhappy because of not finding another job and when, then not for a long time.
I let the management and other pilots know that there is somebody trying to use a public platform to miscredit the company unjustified.
I let the management and other pilots know that there is somebody trying to use a public platform to miscredit the company unjustified.
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Troll alert! Troll alert!!
*sets up deckchair
To write something like that in a public forum you're either very brave, very rich or very stupid. Which one is it?
And who did you tell that you were using the same forum to accuse someone of criminal behaviour?
This is going to be good
*sets up deckchair
We inhouse have some rumours about you, trying to cheat, maybe even stealing money from the company and other unprofessional incidents.
I let the management and other pilots know that there is somebody trying to use a public platform to miscredit the company
This is going to be good
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Blow out
One of Pprunes purposes is to permit free discussion, with perhaps an oportunity to blow off.
My post was and continues to serve the purpose.
Rumours swim in all directions.
Fair Play: I thank you for your input, and trust you are keeping busy, your style of writing is very reminicent of the member of management in question. So I suppose you would say that, wouldnt you.
The Pm,s that I have received would suggest that there is more unrest under the surface.
Regards,
formerIJM
My post was and continues to serve the purpose.
Rumours swim in all directions.
Fair Play: I thank you for your input, and trust you are keeping busy, your style of writing is very reminicent of the member of management in question. So I suppose you would say that, wouldnt you.
The Pm,s that I have received would suggest that there is more unrest under the surface.
Regards,
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Making threats to other posters on this forum is rather disgusting. Your bad manors leads me to believe you're the sort of member no one would like to have in their operation, certainly not mine. Please adjust your tone and do not issue threats in the future, you'll be found out sooner rather than later. There are laws governing this sort of threat in the EEU.
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"I let the management and other pilots know that there is somebody trying to use a public platform to miscredit the company unjustified."
So your name is fairplay and you make these statements?
seems a contradictions in terms to me
"So your name is fairplay and you make these statements?
seems a contradictions in terms to me