Raytheon Premier issues
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Has any one heard a rumour that the FAA have stopped Raytheon from delivering new Premiers due to safety concerns ?? 
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What?????
Another overrun, take from the NTSB website
On December 6, 2006, at about 1320 local time, a Raytheon Premier jet, registered in Spain as EC-IOZ and owned and operated by Gestair Executive Jet, experienced an overrun during landing at Deauville, France. There were no injuries to the occupants of the airplane and only minor damage to the airplane.
On December 6, 2006, at about 1320 local time, a Raytheon Premier jet, registered in Spain as EC-IOZ and owned and operated by Gestair Executive Jet, experienced an overrun during landing at Deauville, France. There were no injuries to the occupants of the airplane and only minor damage to the airplane.
Has any one heard a rumour that the FAA have stopped Raytheon from delivering new Premiers due to safety concerns ??
Seriously.....Where did you hear such a rumour??????
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not me
it wasnot me flying it but I do no who it was. 
I think it may be more than 9 that have over run, at least this one was only small damage.
Any one else heard this news about new aircraft ?
The rumour came from a normally reliable person.
I think it may be more than 9 that have over run, at least this one was only small damage.Any one else heard this news about new aircraft ?
The rumour came from a normally reliable person.
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Premier improvement plan
Lets face it. the best equipment upgrade for the Premier would be a bloody great big hook on the back
That or perhaps fixing floats and allowing it land on water......the Atlantic should be big enough....it wouldn't run off that
That or perhaps fixing floats and allowing it land on water......the Atlantic should be big enough....it wouldn't run off that
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Great Aircraft
There are those that fly this plane and those that don't...like Mu2s.
The Premier 1 is a great aircraft.
Only aircraft right now that can flow single pilot at 41,000 and do .80
Great avionics..no T/Rs to worry about. Auto slats do a great job and with the demo pilot and myself, I landed with a ref of 115 in 2500 feet. Williams engines sip fuel. good Raytheon support, big cabin. Meant to be the competition for the Cj2, but it looks funny.
The fact is, if you take a look at it, it look like the nose of a Citation X, area rule happening here. I liked it in my demo. It doesn't go far, and doesn't carry any weight. The rocket scientists at Raytheon wanted a Part 23 aircraft thinking the market was in Cjs. The SJ30 is the new hot rod that have everyone dumping thier Lears and Citations quickly, Cjs with be a thing of the past...
I needed a single pilot jet that would carry 9 pax, moving up from a Citation SII. The Enocre has a zero fuel weight limitation that was too restrictive, so I bought an Ultra, great aircraft. But .75 at 37000 is not .80 at 41000. Rumours that a Premier 2 might come out, a little longer, faster, better range, more pax.
I looked at all aspects of the Premier, I mean all, and couldn't find major issues, many operators love them. But it has no range, and doesnt carry people. Its perfect for two couples flying from W. Coast to Midwest.
Considering that most corporate aircraft statisticaly don't take off with more then 4 pax, it's really quite nice...and did I say it sips fuel? The biz owner with a single pilot captain, light loads, big cabin, and low fuel and maitanance costs will love this plane.
The Premier 1 is a great aircraft.
Only aircraft right now that can flow single pilot at 41,000 and do .80
Great avionics..no T/Rs to worry about. Auto slats do a great job and with the demo pilot and myself, I landed with a ref of 115 in 2500 feet. Williams engines sip fuel. good Raytheon support, big cabin. Meant to be the competition for the Cj2, but it looks funny.
The fact is, if you take a look at it, it look like the nose of a Citation X, area rule happening here. I liked it in my demo. It doesn't go far, and doesn't carry any weight. The rocket scientists at Raytheon wanted a Part 23 aircraft thinking the market was in Cjs. The SJ30 is the new hot rod that have everyone dumping thier Lears and Citations quickly, Cjs with be a thing of the past...
I needed a single pilot jet that would carry 9 pax, moving up from a Citation SII. The Enocre has a zero fuel weight limitation that was too restrictive, so I bought an Ultra, great aircraft. But .75 at 37000 is not .80 at 41000. Rumours that a Premier 2 might come out, a little longer, faster, better range, more pax.
I looked at all aspects of the Premier, I mean all, and couldn't find major issues, many operators love them. But it has no range, and doesnt carry people. Its perfect for two couples flying from W. Coast to Midwest.
Considering that most corporate aircraft statisticaly don't take off with more then 4 pax, it's really quite nice...and did I say it sips fuel? The biz owner with a single pilot captain, light loads, big cabin, and low fuel and maitanance costs will love this plane.
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premier delay by FAA
FAA has stop delivery of the Premier 1A until the STC for the new hydraulic system is approved, all those flying Premier before RB177 must have a visual inspection on Hydraulic link every 50 hours, to avoid it, there is a new system that FAA want on board on all new Premier; when they will apporve the STC the aircraft will be delivered.
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2,500nm range, Mach 0.83 and FL490 capability (with a 1,800ft cabin altitude...amazing....and better than a G550 in this respect...although a somewhat smaller cabin).
SJ30 holds the Light Jet record and for Farnborough Airshow set the World record for San Antonio, Texas to Farnborough in just under 11 hours and with only a single stop.
Single pilot certified, known icing etc etc...andd available for about $6.5 mil or less I think......
It is in production, as first aircraft was delivered in Oct/Nov 2006 after the NBAA.......
certianly worth a look, as not often there is a new type on the market with such impressive stats.....
The aircraft also looks daaammm smooooooth..... unlike the Premier Hog.
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SJ30
The SJ30 might be best in class, but no one has one, including my guy that put some money one.
Reminds me of the guy that said that the other guys car was crappy, the guy with the car remarked, it's better then yours, because you don't have one.
Right now...the Premier is the hot rod, but what's .76 vs .80.
The Ultra that I flew was quick enough,and since we are talkin single pilot here, I can sit at FL 450 in an Ultra, FL41 in the Premier...it's nice to get above the weather....
Reminds me of the guy that said that the other guys car was crappy, the guy with the car remarked, it's better then yours, because you don't have one.
Right now...the Premier is the hot rod, but what's .76 vs .80.
The Ultra that I flew was quick enough,and since we are talkin single pilot here, I can sit at FL 450 in an Ultra, FL41 in the Premier...it's nice to get above the weather....
