biz jet jobs in the middle east
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biz jet jobs in the middle east
Hi all Just after some info on some biz jet operators in the middle east.
I have around 2000 hours TT, 1000 multi 250 turbine and 100 hours jet
Do companies employ pilots with this time?
Whi do you contact in search of these jobs
I have around 2000 hours TT, 1000 multi 250 turbine and 100 hours jet
Do companies employ pilots with this time?
Whi do you contact in search of these jobs
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Bexair in Bahrain worth a try. You don't say what your 100hrs Jet is on but time on the Citation would help.
www.bexair.com
www.bexair.com
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For whatever it's worth, I interviewed for, and was offered a job by Net Jets Middle East. After considering all the information received here and after meeting some of their working personnel, I couldn't find a single good thing to be said about the company (aside from what they said themselves at the interview). They extended an offer and allowed 9 days to reply. I didn't reply, and two weeks later got a call at 0400 asking why I hadn't replied. I still haven't, and it's been long enough I'm sure the offer is off the table.
The management folks were very professional and cordial in the interview. The interview panel included the Chief Operating Officer himself, and the man running the sim was the Director of Operations. I had a good impression of them while I was there.
My concern was the absolute unified lack of support for the company by anybody else...I tried to find someone who had something good to say and couldn't find them...including people posting here who work (or claim to work) for the company.
The company refused to provide much in the way of details, or even discuss salary at the interview, which I found strange. I've known covert operations that had more information afloat regarding their operations, than a fractional-charter like NJME does, and that concerned me a whole lot.
I can't tell you much about the operation, but based on the very limited information I did get...be careful.
The management folks were very professional and cordial in the interview. The interview panel included the Chief Operating Officer himself, and the man running the sim was the Director of Operations. I had a good impression of them while I was there.
My concern was the absolute unified lack of support for the company by anybody else...I tried to find someone who had something good to say and couldn't find them...including people posting here who work (or claim to work) for the company.
The company refused to provide much in the way of details, or even discuss salary at the interview, which I found strange. I've known covert operations that had more information afloat regarding their operations, than a fractional-charter like NJME does, and that concerned me a whole lot.
I can't tell you much about the operation, but based on the very limited information I did get...be careful.
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Yes,Just had "Ditto" Experience.I agree exactly on ALL your points.I too reached same conclusion having spoken to guys who had worked & resigned of their own accord.
I was really only sniffing,and enjoyed the day in Paris,as did my sim partner.
Unlike NJ,Europe,where one gets Good & Bad feedback,NJME seems 100% Bad.(Dont know about BBJ Operation down there?).
I was really only sniffing,and enjoyed the day in Paris,as did my sim partner.
Unlike NJ,Europe,where one gets Good & Bad feedback,NJME seems 100% Bad.(Dont know about BBJ Operation down there?).
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Re: biz jet jobs in the middle east
Originally Posted by unimuts
tipan 13
will pm you with company who specialise in business aviation, they had a couple of positions in middle east.
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will pm you with company who specialise in business aviation, they had a couple of positions in middle east.
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Re: biz jet jobs in the middle east
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" They extended an offer and allowed 9 days to reply. I didn't reply, and two weeks later got a call at 0400 asking why I hadn't replied. I still haven't, and it's been long enough I'm sure the offer is off the table.
The management folks were very professional and cordial in the interview. The interview panel included the Chief Operating Officer himself, and the man running the sim was the Director of Operations. I had a good impression of them while I was there."
While I might agree that there are some problems with NJME. We ALL complain when we do not get appropriate responses. If you are offered a position, at least show that the pilot community is better than the hiring community and state whether you want the job or not.
As professionals we deserve a response to our applications, but we also should honour the job offers and state whether we want the job or should they offer it to somebody else.
We cannot complain about the response we receive if we react in the same manner.
Cheers
Kent
" They extended an offer and allowed 9 days to reply. I didn't reply, and two weeks later got a call at 0400 asking why I hadn't replied. I still haven't, and it's been long enough I'm sure the offer is off the table.
The management folks were very professional and cordial in the interview. The interview panel included the Chief Operating Officer himself, and the man running the sim was the Director of Operations. I had a good impression of them while I was there."
While I might agree that there are some problems with NJME. We ALL complain when we do not get appropriate responses. If you are offered a position, at least show that the pilot community is better than the hiring community and state whether you want the job or not.
As professionals we deserve a response to our applications, but we also should honour the job offers and state whether we want the job or should they offer it to somebody else.
We cannot complain about the response we receive if we react in the same manner.
Cheers
Kent
I was invited for an interview with NAS to fly the BBJ. Unfortunately this was on a day that I could not make so I emailed them back to ask if any other dates were available. No reply was forthcoming so I emailed them again just in case they did not get my original reply, this time with a "read receipt" request and all I got back was the confirmation of receipt.
Enough said. I do not need their job and every job that I have taken that doesn't feel right has proved not to be right. I am happy to stay clear.
Enough said. I do not need their job and every job that I have taken that doesn't feel right has proved not to be right. I am happy to stay clear.
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Originally Posted by STOL
Bexair in Bahrain worth a try. You don't say what your 100hrs Jet is on but time on the Citation would help.
www.bexair.com
www.bexair.com
Before you do so, make sure you do a search of "Bexair" on this forum. They have a reputation for their failure to pay flight crews.
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Originally Posted by Kent BeTrue
SNS3Guppy
" They extended an offer and allowed 9 days to reply. I didn't reply, and two weeks later got a call at 0400 asking why I hadn't replied. I still haven't, and it's been long enough I'm sure the offer is off the table.
The management folks were very professional and cordial in the interview. The interview panel included the Chief Operating Officer himself, and the man running the sim was the Director of Operations. I had a good impression of them while I was there."
While I might agree that there are some problems with NJME. We ALL complain when we do not get appropriate responses. If you are offered a position, at least show that the pilot community is better than the hiring community and state whether you want the job or not.
As professionals we deserve a response to our applications, but we also should honour the job offers and state whether we want the job or should they offer it to somebody else.
We cannot complain about the response we receive if we react in the same manner.
Cheers
Kent
" They extended an offer and allowed 9 days to reply. I didn't reply, and two weeks later got a call at 0400 asking why I hadn't replied. I still haven't, and it's been long enough I'm sure the offer is off the table.
The management folks were very professional and cordial in the interview. The interview panel included the Chief Operating Officer himself, and the man running the sim was the Director of Operations. I had a good impression of them while I was there."
While I might agree that there are some problems with NJME. We ALL complain when we do not get appropriate responses. If you are offered a position, at least show that the pilot community is better than the hiring community and state whether you want the job or not.
As professionals we deserve a response to our applications, but we also should honour the job offers and state whether we want the job or should they offer it to somebody else.
We cannot complain about the response we receive if we react in the same manner.
Cheers
Kent
SNS3 GUPPY PROBABLY FELT AS I DID.HOW CAN YOU FORMALLY ACCEPT AN OFFER,WHEN THE EMPLOYER WILL NOT PROVIDE YOU WITH YOUR SALARY PACKAGE?
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This thread is old, but I'll reply anyway. I didn't respond to the initial job offer for several reasons. On the one hand I had flown down there out of pocket on the understanding I'd be reimbursed at the interview. I wasn't. Likewise for the hotel, and the second night in the hotel when the interviews ran past ten in the evening and I missed my flight. I wasn't happy. I spoke with NJME pilots who had little or nothing to say, and indicated they feared for their jobs if they spoke about the company.
When I did get the offer and the salary, it was considerably less than less qualified applicants at the same interview, at least one of whom crashed the simulator during the interview. I didn't feel for what I was learning about the company that the offer of pay, nor the offer of aircraft, was appropriate. I found it somewhat insulting. I was also displeased with a refusal to discuss salary. A company that refused to submit basic employment details in person did not necessarily merit an immediate response by mail.
Further, the nature of the employment offer was that no response within ten days retracted the offer, and silence therefore is an appropriate response, and a legal one. Additionally, I did not desire to tender a refusal before I had a chance to submit paperwork to the company for reimbursement for the interview...nearly a thousand dollars. Comments received by employees and ex-employees lead me to take that course of action, which was appropriate under the circumstances.
Finally, I have no particular compunction to be the poster boy for the pilot community, nor do I represent the pilot community. I represent myself. Should I elect to respond or not respond within the requisite 9 days, I have done the pilot community no disservice, nor the employer who tendered the offer. I have merely acted within the terms set forth by that employer in their late offer. Nothing more.
When I did get the offer and the salary, it was considerably less than less qualified applicants at the same interview, at least one of whom crashed the simulator during the interview. I didn't feel for what I was learning about the company that the offer of pay, nor the offer of aircraft, was appropriate. I found it somewhat insulting. I was also displeased with a refusal to discuss salary. A company that refused to submit basic employment details in person did not necessarily merit an immediate response by mail.
Further, the nature of the employment offer was that no response within ten days retracted the offer, and silence therefore is an appropriate response, and a legal one. Additionally, I did not desire to tender a refusal before I had a chance to submit paperwork to the company for reimbursement for the interview...nearly a thousand dollars. Comments received by employees and ex-employees lead me to take that course of action, which was appropriate under the circumstances.
Finally, I have no particular compunction to be the poster boy for the pilot community, nor do I represent the pilot community. I represent myself. Should I elect to respond or not respond within the requisite 9 days, I have done the pilot community no disservice, nor the employer who tendered the offer. I have merely acted within the terms set forth by that employer in their late offer. Nothing more.
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NJME has had a lot of investment very recently and the change in Ownership has, and will continue to, force about real change.........don't throw in the towel just yet! 
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I have to congratulate you.I have nothing to add as you hit it on the button.I had a similar experience in Paris interview. Eventually,I got the money,but it was was not easy. LGW Vulure: I am glad to hear that!! The old regime were a disgrace by any standards.
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Nas/njme.
My interview/sim.ride was back in the winter,so not up to date since then.I really never could see where NAS stopped,and NJME started despite the "company structure overview" in Paris. From memory,I think NJME is the foreign partner,i.e. Warren Buffet,CEO,& NAS is The Saudi Partner.All paperwork was "NAS" for interview;visa,etc. I THINK that they have a BBJ Op. that is run sperately,which is strictly one or the other.(Way back on an old thread somewhere.)The actual interview/sim day was very well done,but after that...........!!!?
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This thread is old, but I'll reply anyway. I didn't respond to the initial job offer for several reasons. On the one hand I had flown down there out of pocket on the understanding I'd be reimbursed at the interview. I wasn't. Likewise for the hotel, and the second night in the hotel when the interviews ran past ten in the evening and I missed my flight. I wasn't happy. I spoke with NJME pilots who had little or nothing to say, and indicated they feared for their jobs if they spoke about the company.
When I did get the offer and the salary, it was considerably less than less qualified applicants at the same interview, at least one of whom crashed the simulator during the interview. I didn't feel for what I was learning about the company that the offer of pay, nor the offer of aircraft, was appropriate. I found it somewhat insulting. I was also displeased with a refusal to discuss salary. A company that refused to submit basic employment details in person did not necessarily merit an immediate response by mail.
Further, the nature of the employment offer was that no response within ten days retracted the offer, and silence therefore is an appropriate response, and a legal one. Additionally, I did not desire to tender a refusal before I had a chance to submit paperwork to the company for reimbursement for the interview...nearly a thousand dollars. Comments received by employees and ex-employees lead me to take that course of action, which was appropriate under the circumstances.
Finally, I have no particular compunction to be the poster boy for the pilot community, nor do I represent the pilot community. I represent myself. Should I elect to respond or not respond within the requisite 9 days, I have done the pilot community no disservice, nor the employer who tendered the offer. I have merely acted within the terms set forth by that employer in their late offer. Nothing more.
When I did get the offer and the salary, it was considerably less than less qualified applicants at the same interview, at least one of whom crashed the simulator during the interview. I didn't feel for what I was learning about the company that the offer of pay, nor the offer of aircraft, was appropriate. I found it somewhat insulting. I was also displeased with a refusal to discuss salary. A company that refused to submit basic employment details in person did not necessarily merit an immediate response by mail.
Further, the nature of the employment offer was that no response within ten days retracted the offer, and silence therefore is an appropriate response, and a legal one. Additionally, I did not desire to tender a refusal before I had a chance to submit paperwork to the company for reimbursement for the interview...nearly a thousand dollars. Comments received by employees and ex-employees lead me to take that course of action, which was appropriate under the circumstances.
Finally, I have no particular compunction to be the poster boy for the pilot community, nor do I represent the pilot community. I represent myself. Should I elect to respond or not respond within the requisite 9 days, I have done the pilot community no disservice, nor the employer who tendered the offer. I have merely acted within the terms set forth by that employer in their late offer. Nothing more.
1. What aircraft type had they offered you at NJME? GIV? Hawker?
2. Given that you are an American, did you also explore the bigger American version? I would think that would be more appealing to Americans. Why would you consider NJME?
Cheers