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longer ron 24th October 2024 07:49

Hey Noyade - looks like the designer anticipated the Test Pilots request to make it impossible to get into :)

Mechta 24th October 2024 07:56


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11756462)
Thanks Mechta. When you mentioned Farnborough earlier - I was thinking very new and maybe electric. I was way off! :)


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0bbb6ea26f.jpg

Was the front end going to be decided after the first flight, once the test pilot had established which way it preferred to go? :)

chevvron 24th October 2024 09:44

Looks like the engine is a KFM 107E (direct drive with the prop turning at about 6,000rpm) which could mean microlight; I would say early '80s British maybe derived from the 'Goldwing' canard.

Noyade 24th October 2024 22:43


Originally Posted by Mechta (Post 11756298)
Yes it is the Dragon Light Aircraft Dragon 150, built in Wales.

Found a little more (optimistic) info on the Dragon this morning...


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....507ee26105.jpg






Noyade 24th October 2024 22:50


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11756594)
Looks like the engine is a KFM 107E (direct drive with the prop turning at about 6,000rpm) which could mean microlight; I would say early '80s British maybe derived from the 'Goldwing' canard.

Hi Chevron.

British indeed. :)
Mid 80's.
French engine of 22hp.
No connection with Goldwing.
Designer was a former Rolls-Royce engineer and RAF gliding instructor.
Based in Nottingham.
Empty weight of 68kg - "thus exempting it from airworthiness legislation."

Found a wiki article - but no further photos...

Mechta 26th October 2024 16:37

I can't find a picture, however, the Snipe Diamond built by Arthur Luff fits the bill with its JPX 425 PUL flat twin two stroke engine. If correct, it sounds like a fascinating aircraft, having an empty weight of 68kg, so eligible for the sub-70kg category of microlights.

Noyade 27th October 2024 03:55

The Snipe Diamond it is Mechta. :ok:
Back to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_Diamond

Mechta 27th October 2024 16:20

Thanks Noyade :)

Here's the next one:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....971af836d7.jpg

kenparry 27th October 2024 16:36

Nakajima Rufe?

B2N2 27th October 2024 16:52


Originally Posted by Mechta (Post 11758401)
Thanks Noyade :)

Here's the next one:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....971af836d7.jpg

Aichi M6A


Mechta 27th October 2024 17:29


Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 11758407)
Aichi M6A

B2N2m I know why you have suggested that, however I'm pretty sure it is incorrect.

Mechta 27th October 2024 17:50


Originally Posted by kenparry (Post 11758402)
Nakajima Rufe?

Kenparry, afraid not.

Noyade 28th October 2024 05:21

Aichi E16A Zuiun (Paul)?

Mechta 28th October 2024 14:14


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11758650)
Aichi E16A Zuiun (Paul)?

Well done Noyade! Over to you.

Yes, it is the Aichi E16A Zuiun 'Auspicious Cloud', (Allied reporting name 'Paul'). Unusually for a floatplane it was intended to be a dive bomber and had dive brakes built into the unusually broad chord front float struts. 256 were built.

Like B2N2, I initially thought it was the Aichi M6, as there is a picture labelled Aichi M6a on Google. As the Aichi M6A2 was fitted with a Mitsubushi radial engine I assumed it was that. The misnamed picture was linked to a Youtube video which showed a variety of Japanese floatplanes.
It turned out that the M6A was intended to be launched from a submarine and had floats with simple cantilever legs so they could be jettisoned, so it was unlikely to be that.



https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....239df0f765.jpg
Aichi E16A Zuiun 'Auspicious Cloud' (Paul)

Noyade 28th October 2024 22:53

Cheers Mechta!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....615cad467a.jpg

dduxbury310 29th October 2024 21:36

Could this be another Japanese WW2 type? Looks familiar. And definitley NOT the Noordyn (spelling?) Norseman from the late 1930s/WW2 era.

India Four Two 30th October 2024 06:09

I started looking for "Storch-like" Japanese monoplanes.

How about the Kokusai Ki-76?

Noyade 30th October 2024 07:23


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11759778)
How about the Kokusai Ki-76?

Indeed it is India! :ok:
Over to you mate.

Noyade 30th October 2024 08:08


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11759778)
I started looking for "Storch-like" Japanese monoplanes.

Apparently better performance than the Storch - except for landing distance...


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2817009412.jpg

India Four Two 30th October 2024 08:24

Thanks Noyade,

An interesting aircraft that I had never heard of before.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b97a10fc02.jpg

Here's something more modern:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ca8cd5ef6f.jpg




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