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Herod 21st Mar 2022 10:05

Unique Aeroplanes
 
I was taking a group at a museum yesterday, and a young lad asked me "what do you think is the most unique aeroplane?". If we exclude the last-remaining of a line, and say just "one-offs", what are your thoughts? My own reply was the "Spruce Goose". Do we limit it to ones where the aircraft remains intact, or can we throw in the Brabazon and so on? This could raise a few "unknowns".

treadigraph 21st Mar 2022 10:26

I suppose the Spruce Goose was really just a larger version of what had gone before. Perhaps it could be something that has unique attributes...?

ZFT 21st Mar 2022 10:55

TSR-2 gets my vote. Only 1 flew I recall

Planemike 21st Mar 2022 12:13

Herod..... Apologies for being a pedant. You cannot qualify the word "unique" i.e. "most unique" is incorrect. Unique means, one off, on its own, alone. If there is more than one it is NOT unique, less than one means it is only part of one: incomplete.

When it comes to aircraft types there are some obvious examples of truly (hey, fell into the trap myself !!!) unique examples. Spruce Goose would certainly qualify, as would the Reid & Sigrist Desford. Then there will be some that are unique, in that they have a "one off" engine installation but there will be other airframes with different engines.

Sometimes a particular Mark of a design will be a "one off, unique". The de Havilland 106 Comet 3 was unique but of course there were others Comets of different Mks.... While we are on de Havilland aircraft, the deH 81 Swallow Moth & deH 92 Dolphin were both unique.

Ohrly 21st Mar 2022 12:23

How about the Myasishchev M-50?

Two engines with reheat and two without, as well as mounting engines on the wingtips. I think it is the only one to have those two features. Plus they only made one working example.

meleagertoo 21st Mar 2022 16:55

Features have nothing to do with uniqueness.
A unique aeroplane is a one-off, and there must be/have been hundreds, if not thousands in that category. All unique.

ATSA1 21st Mar 2022 17:16

Saro Princess..only 1 flew, another 2 were built but cocooned for 15 years

Herod 21st Mar 2022 17:34

Planemike. My apologies; you are of course quite correct (or perhaps that shouldn't be qualified either. It's either correct or not). Vernacular I suppose.

Arthur Bellcrank 21st Mar 2022 18:22

The Beardmore Inflexible was pretty impressive, built by Glasgow shipbuilders it was certainly unique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beardmore_Inflexible

Only a wheel survives.

Sue Vêtements 21st Mar 2022 20:17

Might I be even more pedantic and suggest that the term "unique" (at least as in how question was asked) might refer to an unusual design and not that only one was made

BV 141 for instance

Bill Macgillivray 21st Mar 2022 20:31

Cranfield A1?

Zaxis 21st Mar 2022 21:53

Fairey Rotodyne
Absolutely unique
There are a few bits left at Weston-Super-Mare.

Asturias56 22nd Mar 2022 08:49

"There are a few bits left at Weston-Super-Mare."

I wondered what the noise was when I was there last year........................

Ohrly 22nd Mar 2022 08:57


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11203413)
Features have nothing to do with uniqueness.
A unique aeroplane is a one-off, and there must be/have been hundreds, if not thousands in that category. All unique.

Your definition of unique is certainly unique.

Merriam-Webster
Unique adjective
\ yu̇-ˈnēk \
Definition of unique
1: being the only one
2a: being without a like or equal
b: distinctively characteristic
c: able to be distinguished from all others of its class or type

Cambridge
Unique
adjective
UK /juːˈniːk/ US /juːˈniːk/

Being the only existing one of its type or, more generally, unusual, or special in some way.

Oxford
Unique adjective
/yuˈnik/
  • Being the only one of its kind.
  • Very special or unusual.
  • Unique (to somebody/something) belonging to or connected with one particular person, place, or thing.

DH106 22nd Mar 2022 11:20

Geez - I think we all know what we're trying to list here, can we move on from the pedanticism? :suspect:

ChrisJ800 22nd Mar 2022 11:40

I always think the Blohn & Voss BV 141 as being a unique asymmetrical design.

Jhieminga 22nd Mar 2022 15:03

Well.... the linguistics do have a place in this discussion so that we are all aware of what it is we're discussing... at least, that's my view! Without them, you may end up with one of those 'which is the best' discussions where no-one states what it is that makes it the best.

Unique aircraft... The Rutan Voyager gets my vote for its capability and achievement.

aloominumtoob 22nd Mar 2022 16:10

AN225.Dream.
AN70.

Beamr 22nd Mar 2022 16:19

One springs to mind especially: the Edgley Optica. I've no idea what the designers had had but I'll have the same. Double.

B2N2 22nd Mar 2022 17:44

Caspian Seamonster


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9c741fd18.jpeg

For for the purists:


noun, plural air·craft.
any machine supported for flight in the air by buoyancy or by the dynamic action of air on its surfaces, especially powered airplanes, gliders, and helicopters.

tdracer 22nd Mar 2022 18:12

I'd put in a vote for the XB-70. Mach 3 bomber, half a million pounds, stainless steel construction, variable geometry - all in the early 1960's. It also looks awesome...
Not quite a one-off since they built two, but only one survives today.

teeteringhead 22nd Mar 2022 19:20

DH106


can we move on from the pedanticism?
I think you'll find the word is pedantry. (See what I did there!!)

dixi188 22nd Mar 2022 19:30


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11204083)
One springs to mind especially: the Edgley Optica. I've no idea what the designers had had but I'll have the same. Double.

22 built? Unique design.

DH106 22nd Mar 2022 19:58


Originally Posted by teeteringhead (Post 11204186)
DH106

I think you'll find the word is pedantry. (See what I did there!!)

Not biting :)

treadigraph 22nd Mar 2022 21:26


Originally Posted by ChrisJ800 (Post 11203934)
I always think the Blohn & Voss BV 141 as being a unique asymmetrical design

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Boomerang

Planemike 22nd Mar 2022 23:22


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 11203436)
Planemike. My apologies; you are of course quite correct (or perhaps that shouldn't be qualified either. It's either correct or not). Vernacular I suppose.

No apology required....just one of those terms that seem to stand out, goes with the list of aviation related spellings/misspellings: hangar / hanger & Gipsy / gypsy. OK Mike...back onto your perch !!!!

Oh, you can add the Pilatus P4 to the list.... It morphed into the rather better known Pilatus PC6 Porter, later Turbo Porter.

chevvron 22nd Mar 2022 23:35


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11204083)
One springs to mind especially: the Edgley Optica. I've no idea what the designers had had but I'll have the same. Double.

I flew the prototype at Farnborough with Angus McVitie; landed it too!!

Jhieminga 23rd Mar 2022 07:22


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11204254)

I read an article a long, long time ago that explained the thought process that led Burt Rutan to come up with this configuration. I think it started with a generic Beechcraft Baron and then discussed the different issues inherent in that design (or any typical light twin) and how the Boomerang configuration solved that. I wish I could find that article.

Krystal n chips 23rd Mar 2022 08:06

The Westland Wendover would appear to meet the criteria....never heard of it until fairly recently, so looked it up. ...of the first two words that sprung to mind, only me can be repeated.

India Four Two 23rd Mar 2022 08:58

The Wendover looks like the result of a Lysander accidentally ending up on a Lancaster production line! :sad:

treadigraph 23rd Mar 2022 09:04


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 11204399)
. I wish I could find that article.

Might have been in Flying as I think I recall it too. Possibly penned by Peter Garrison. They are all on line, see if I can find it later.

chevvron 23rd Mar 2022 09:43

I could mention the Vickers Windsor.
A 4 engined bomber with Geodetic construction powered by Merlins; three built; assembled at Foxwarren near Brooklands but then disassembled and moved to Farnborough for test flying.
Had to have 4 mainwheels because the wings drooped when on the ground; notable for its pressurised crew compartments and remote controlled guns called 'barbettes' at the rear of each outboard nacelle. First one flew Oct 1943, followed by the second in Feb 1944 and third in Jul 1944. Development curtailed as the Lancaster was in full production and the end of the war was in sight.
Then there was the CMC Leopard lightweight bizjet. 2 built with twin jet engines and designed to carry a pilot and 3 passengers. Prototype first flew in 1988 followed by the second with more powerful engines in early 1997.
Project cancelled on the death of the designer, Ian Chichester Miles, in 2009.

ZH875 23rd Mar 2022 10:00

The Hunting H126, jet powered and could dawdle along at 28 knots.
Two were ordered but only one completed and flown.

chevvron 23rd Mar 2022 10:14


Originally Posted by ZH875 (Post 11204477)
The Hunting H126, jet powered and could dawdle along at 28 knots.
Two were ordered but only one completed and flown.

My first visit to RAE Bedford in 1974, I saw the '126 departing on the back of a lorry.
There was also the HP115 'slim' delta designed for swept wing research. Used piston Provost undercarriage legs, one of which decided to collapse on landing one day at Bedford; the runway controller (temporarily on detachment from Farnborough) told me he watched as the aircraft described a circle around his vantage point.

ATNotts 23rd Mar 2022 10:34

Truly "unique" as I believe only one example built was the Douglas DC4E.

treadigraph 23rd Mar 2022 10:49

Garrison on the Rutan Boomerang :

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...merang&f=false

muggins 23rd Mar 2022 12:01

another singular example would be the Miles M.100 Student

Shackman 23rd Mar 2022 14:35

Surely there is only one 'unique' aircraft - The Wright Flyer. Everything else is a descendant.

Beamr 23rd Mar 2022 14:57


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11204296)
I flew the prototype at Farnborough with Angus McVitie; landed it too!!

You caught my attention! Sorry for the thread drift, but was it good at what it was designed for, to replace helicopters in low-level/low-speed observation tasks?

meleagertoo 23rd Mar 2022 15:02

What really is unique here is the hilarious misuse of the simple word "unique".


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