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FLHerne 23rd Mar 2022 15:12


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 11204399)
I read an article a long, long time ago that explained the thought process that led Burt Rutan to come up with this configuration. I think it started with a generic Beechcraft Baron and then discussed the different issues inherent in that design (or any typical light twin) and how the Boomerang configuration solved that. I wish I could find that article.

It's a page on the Rutan Boomerang website:
rutanboomerang.com and click 'Design' -- I can't post links as a new user.

Definitely quite interesting. I'd think the Boomerang is the most unique civilian light aircraft at least.

re. the pedantry -- every plane is unique in some way -- "only 737 to be completed at 2:14pm on a Tuesday". A plane can be more or less unique depending on the significance of the categories it's unique in.

Surely the Caproni Ca. 60 has to be the most unique, just look at the thing...

A related question might be the most useful/significant one-of-a-kind plane, perhaps the late An-225?

DH106 23rd Mar 2022 15:28


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11204469)
Then there was the CMC Leopard lightweight bizjet. 2 built with twin jet engines and designed to carry a pilot and 3 passengers. Prototype first flew in 1988 followed by the second with more powerful engines in early 1997.Project cancelled on the death of the designer, Ian Chichester Miles, in 2009.

I think one of the Leopards is in the museum at Coventry Airport?

DH106 23rd Mar 2022 15:30


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11204296)
I flew the prototype at Farnborough with Angus McVitie; landed it too!!

Angus McVitie - there's a name you don't forget easily!
I did a week's course at Cranfield in the mid-80's as part of my degree, and I'm sure Angus flew the Jetstream sorties that were part of the course.

DH106 23rd Mar 2022 15:32


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11204647)
What really is unique here is the hilarious misuse of the simple word "unique".

Hardly a unique misuse! :-D

Sue Vêtements 23rd Mar 2022 17:02


Originally Posted by Shackman (Post 11204638)
Surely there is only one 'unique' aircraft - The Wright Flyer. Everything else is a descendant.

<pedantically pedantic>

That would be "powered aircraft"

</pedantically pedantic>

WB627 23rd Mar 2022 17:13

I42 beat me to the Wendover, so ladies and gentlemen I give you The Hillson FH.40 ..... AKA The Slip Wing Hurricane




DHfan 23rd Mar 2022 18:21


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 11204416)
The Westland Wendover would appear to meet the criteria....never heard of it until fairly recently, so looked it up. ...of the first two words that sprung to mind, only me can be repeated.

I knew of the aircraft but I'd never heard that name for it.

How about the Percival P.74 helicopter? The only helicopter Percival built, and it refused point-blank to even lift off the ground, let alone fly.

Sue Vêtements 23rd Mar 2022 19:39


I give you The Hillson FH.40 ..... AKA The Slip Wing Hurricane
which leads to that Russian one that could fly as either a monoplane OR a Biplane

treadigraph 23rd Mar 2022 23:15


Originally Posted by Sue Vêtements (Post 11204773)
which leads to that Russian one that could fly as either a monoplane OR a Biplane

The Bowers Fly Baby? Ski...?

Self loading bear 23rd Mar 2022 23:48


Originally Posted by DHfan (Post 11204741)
I knew of the aircraft but I'd never heard that name for it.

How about the Percival P.74 helicopter? The only helicopter Percival built, and it refused point-blank to even lift off the ground, let alone fly.

Machines that didn’t fly are called a “try”
And they are not very unique.

Asturias56 24th Mar 2022 08:39

IIRC we never figured out what this was in "What aeroplane " so pretty unique!​​​​​​​
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1e78ebe50.jpeg


Beamr 24th Mar 2022 08:42


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11204974)
IIRC we never figured out what this was in "What aeroplane " so pretty unique!

Ah, yes, that one has been haunting me ever since. Very annoying.

FullOppositeRudder 24th Mar 2022 10:14

If I may follow the somewhat broader definition, Henri Mignet's Flying Flea is certainly some kind of unique - at least in concept and design; probably some other variation of unique in its flying characteristics. I knew a bloke once who had one. He claimed it was OK so long as you understood it (whatever that meant - he didn't expand and I didn't ask). Quite sad that he died (reportedly of a heart attack) whilst enjoying one of his local flying outings in the aircraft. I guess that's sort of unique too - in the saddest sense.

PDR1 24th Mar 2022 12:41

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chevvron 24th Mar 2022 18:14


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11204974)
IIRC we never figured out what this was in "What aeroplane " so pretty unique!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1e78ebe50.jpeg

​​​​​​​Looks like an upscaled Cri-Cri.

Planemike 24th Mar 2022 18:46


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11204855)
Machines that didn’t fly are called a “try”
And they are not very unique.

Sorry to come back to this but they are either unique or they are not....To me the Percival P 74 helicopter was unique whether it flew or not..... One designed, one built. To me that makes it unique.

treadigraph 24th Mar 2022 19:11

The Slingsby V-Liner would have been a serious contender!

Sue Vêtements 24th Mar 2022 19:26

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the XF-85 Goblin

Fairly unique that it was launched from another aircraft, but then again so were Bell XB1 and the X15 ... but ... the Goblin had the distinction of also "landing" on another aircraft!

treadigraph 24th Mar 2022 19:47

I presume the Brittany Ferries Cri Cri never attempted to land back on its Broussard mothership? I would certainly assume too great a risk.

B2N2 24th Mar 2022 19:55


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11204974)
IIRC we never figured out what this was in "What aeroplane " so pretty unique!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1e78ebe50.jpeg

​​​​​​​The Diamond DA-22 prototype.

rixt 24th Mar 2022 20:26

The Pander S.4 postjager: Pander S-4 Postjager - Wikipedia

TLDNMCL 24th Mar 2022 21:21


Originally Posted by Planemike (Post 11203223)
Herod..... Apologies for being a pedant. You cannot qualify the word "unique" i.e. "most unique" is incorrect. Unique means, one off, on its own, alone. If there is more than one it is NOT unique, less than one means it is only part of one: incomplete.

When it comes to aircraft types there are some obvious examples of truly (hey, fell into the trap myself !!!) unique examples. Spruce Goose would certainly qualify, as would the Reid & Sigrist Desford. Then there will be some that are unique, in that they have a "one off" engine installation but there will be other airframes with different engines.

Sometimes a particular Mark of a design will be a "one off, unique". The de Havilland 106 Comet 3 was unique but of course there were others Comets of different Mks.... While we are on de Havilland aircraft, the deH 81 Swallow Moth & deH 92 Dolphin were both unique.

With you all the way; no such thing as "a bit unique, quite unique , slightly /rather unique."

B2N2 25th Mar 2022 18:42

This whole unique discussion is a little silly.
Even a one off aero plane is not unique because as soon as it becomes airborne it flies just like any other aero plane.
Even the ones that have never flown are not unique as there are many other ones that have never flown.
Now what did I win?

Herod 25th Mar 2022 21:52

B2N2. I agree with the silly comment. I was asked this question by a young lad, and posted it here for fun, expecting interesting replies. What I got was the grammar police.

Asturias56 26th Mar 2022 07:53

"The Diamond DA-22 prototype."

I don't think so - the "What Aircraft" forum had to abandon this when it was a challenge - looks nothing like the Diamond - IIRC it was photographed in France at a show
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https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....43cf11a24.jpeg




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