PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Aviation History and Nostalgia (https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia-86/)
-   -   Aircraft with unusual landing gear configurations (https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/638492-aircraft-unusual-landing-gear-configurations.html)

PR0PWASH 8th Feb 2021 07:39


Originally Posted by DHfan (Post 10984082)
I always thought the Windsor was a dumb idea but it's only dawned on me, literally in the last few months, that with a geodetic wing it wasn't so dumb after all.


I know a little about Geodetic construction but can't think why its relevant, could you explain?

PR0PWASH 8th Feb 2021 07:44

No its not Broken.. Stinson with Crosswind landing gearhttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d17e794889.jpg

Jhieminga 8th Feb 2021 07:53


Originally Posted by Max Tow (Post 10985921)
TSR2. Unfair, I know, but it was still distinctly odd looking even when it did work properly!

Not all that different from the average Cessna retraction cycle.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....99b8138a17.jpg


FlightlessParrot 8th Feb 2021 08:31


Originally Posted by Haraka (Post 10986009)
You beat me to it FP! My reference was Haddow and Grosz's German Giants ( R Planes) Putnam where I must admit I had remembered it as the :Poll Giant Triplane.

Poll seems to be its aka: but they all agree on Giant Triplane. With hindsight, anything called a Giant Triplane seems doomed to failure.

megan 8th Feb 2021 12:34

Don't have a photo but there was a Hurricane with nose wheel fitted so students could learn to taxi with out endangering the aircraft, the nose wheel only came into ground contact if the aircraft nosed over, preventing a prop strike.

DH106 8th Feb 2021 13:34

Just been reading about the YB-60 prototype of a jet powered B-36 bomber - with a swept wing and 8x jet engines in a similar layout to the B-52.
Anyway, the swept wing gave some C. of G. issues on the ground which necessitated an auxiliary tail gear - which was apparently lowered during the landing ground run (with the pilot holding in nose down elevator so it could extend).

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5353823192.png



DHfan 8th Feb 2021 16:23


Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot (Post 10985941)
DHFan
I knew there was another image I had seen that matched your description, and it is this:

I had a memory of seeing this in James Gilbert's The World's Worst Aircraft (1975, one of the earliest and best books with that title); that memory must have been from maybe 30 years ago, but climbing up a ladder to the top shelf my bookshelves, there it was.

I'm pretty sure it's the first one I was thinking of. I found the one with JDK at the Science Museum when I was searching too but that wasn't it.

DHfan 8th Feb 2021 16:27


Originally Posted by PR0PWASH (Post 10986021)
I know a little about Geodetic construction but can't think why its relevant, could you explain?

I know no more than the man in the street about it but what little I do know suggests it's more flexible than 'standard' construction so the load would be spread over the four wheels. A more rigid wing could presumably result in one wheel taking very little, if any, load.

nuisance79 8th Feb 2021 20:09

A340 been mentioned?

DaveReidUK 8th Feb 2021 21:23


Originally Posted by nuisance79 (Post 10986454)
A340-300 been mentioned?

Why specifically the -300 ?

dixi188 9th Feb 2021 06:12

A340. 3 main legs, like the DC-10-30/40.
I suppose the DC-10-30/40 is unusual as you could have the centre main leg extended or retracted, but don't try retracting it on the ground if you don't know what you are doing!

PR0PWASH 9th Feb 2021 08:19


Originally Posted by DHfan (Post 10986361)
I know no more than the man in the street about it but what little I do know suggests it's more flexible than 'standard' construction so the load would be spread over the four wheels. A more rigid wing could presumably result in one wheel taking very little, if any, load.


Hmm maybe that was a consideration and perhaps a valid reason if dealing with rather rigid undercarriage designs but the displacement available from the Oleo struts in use would give a far greater compliance than that afforded by any increased wing flexibility

asw28-866 10th Feb 2021 00:23

Hi Megan,
Perhaps the Hawker "Dodo"...
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bb94bed488.jpg
Photo credit and information here:
Hawker ?Dodo? ? The flightless Hurricane ? RAFCommands

866

Self loading bear 10th Feb 2021 16:12

On all accounts in line with the U2, Baade 152 and the XB48:
The Myasishchev M4/3M/VM-T:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6013aa6c0.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1ed3fd218.jpeg

Spooky 2 10th Feb 2021 18:51

The main landing gear of the Constellation are “walking gear” and the knack for getting the aircraft “on step” during engine runup can be a challenge for the novice Connie pilot. Back in the old days, it was considered poor form to drop the Connie with a load of passengers in the back! With the aircraft “on-step” the “before takeoff checklist” was successfully completed

The Captain would verbalize "coming up" as he increased the power for the
sunup which was conducted by the FE. Reducing the power would caise the aircraft to "come off the step".

Not sure if all models of the Connie had this design as I only flew the 1049H.

PAXboy 10th Feb 2021 22:29

Spooky 2 Could you illustrate that? I have seen many photos and videos of Connies but no idea what you mean by the step. Never heard that reference to any aircraft - other than flying boats!

Spooky 2 10th Feb 2021 22:43

Looked all over for a visual reference but can't find anything and have no manuals for back in the day. I think there were several other aircraft during that time period with a similar design, but cannot pick out which ones. One of those things you had to experience to visualize.

boguing 10th Feb 2021 22:57

Walking gear are explained here...

Constellation

megan 11th Feb 2021 04:10

asw28-866, that's the one. :ok:

FlightlessParrot 11th Feb 2021 04:44


Originally Posted by boguing (Post 10988140)
Walking gear are explained here...

Constellation

I have a poor imagination for this sort of thing, and still can't understand what is happening. Is there a drawing anywhere (I have Googled, and only found the site where Spooky gave his description earlier).


All times are GMT. The time now is 15:15.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.