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Jhieminga 18th Aug 2020 20:26

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0f7c05507e.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....65a4e9b3e2.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....961aafd68b.jpg
I only had the May 1988 Aeroplane Monthly as the basis for this challenge (the second image) but have since found some more images of the Bestetti (or Bazzocchi) E.B.4. Self Loading Bear has control!

Self loading bear 19th Aug 2020 07:42

Thanks,
That was a though one.
Now a rare glider (at least still flying)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....496ab51f6.jpeg

fauteuil volant 19th Aug 2020 08:53

Carden (Abbott)-Baynes Scud III?

Self loading bear 19th Aug 2020 10:04


Originally Posted by fauteuil volant (Post 10864824)
Carden (Abbott)-Baynes Scud III?

Indeed this example from 1935 appears to be still flying in the Netherlands.

Fauteuil in the lead.

fauteuil volant 19th Aug 2020 10:55

Thank you, SLB. I presume that it is the former BGA 684.

Now the following is a bit of a cheat - but I'll explain why when it's been identified!


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....18a04704a4.jpg

Self loading bear 19th Aug 2020 11:56

Villeroy & Boch
Flying bathtub

(Looks like a remake)

fauteuil volant 19th Aug 2020 12:51

Villeroy & Boch? The country of origin of that company is the same as that of the designer of this aeroplane.

Bathtub? This aeroplane has nothing to do with Etienne Dormoy or the Aeronca C-2!

Remake? Well, I'll explain the cheat. That depicted is a 60% scale model but which was built from scaled down versions of the designer's original plans.

There was one full size version of this specific model that did fly - in a country not far from you, SLB. There may have been as many as four of the general type, from which this specific model originated, of which at least one is extant (I was in contact with its owner only yesterday).

fauteuil volant 19th Aug 2020 17:04

You may not believe it but the aeroplane in question is designated a motor glider. I'd avoid the sink if I were in it!

p.s. I note that we've had both bath and sink in the same topic - we just need shower, toilet and bidet now!

fauteuil volant 21st Aug 2020 06:28

The bath, the sink and soon I'll be throwing the towel in if no-one is prepared to take a stab at identifying this one!

treadigraph 21st Aug 2020 07:42

I'd be flanneling if I hinted that I knew what it was...

ea200 21st Aug 2020 08:20

Is it based on one of Sablier's designs?

fauteuil volant 21st Aug 2020 08:38

Well done, ea200. It is one of Georges Sablier's designs. That was the hard bit. Identifying which one it is should be easy now.

ea200 21st Aug 2020 08:56

Nearest I can get is a Type 4/52

fauteuil volant 21st Aug 2020 09:42

You couldn't get any nearer, ea200, as the Sablier Type 4/52 is exactly what it is.

Attached below is another image of the 60% scale model of the Type 4/52 - with a 100% scale human being (José Garcia, who built the model) to put it in context - and an image of the only Type 4/52 (as opposed to the earlier Type 4s) to be built.

Your turn, please.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b42de57298.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff1483e093.jpg

ea200 21st Aug 2020 11:49

Thanks FV. M. Sablier was very productive it seems. Let's have a go at this one.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....550d4ec945.png

fauteuil volant 21st Aug 2020 12:27


Originally Posted by ea200 (Post 10866801)
Thanks FV. M. Sablier was very productive it seems.

In terms of aircraft designed, yes. In terms of aircraft produced, much less so.


teusje 21st Aug 2020 12:48

Is it the Fleet Finch 16?

ea200 21st Aug 2020 13:07


Originally Posted by teusje (Post 10866846)
Is it the Fleet Finch 16?

Good enough. It's actually a Fleet Model 10 which spawned a number of variants including the 16. Good spot.

Teusje has control.

teusje 21st Aug 2020 13:13

Thank you ea200, the Model 10 seemed to have the wrong engine to me.
Here's the next one.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....beb4dbc6ec.jpg

ea200 21st Aug 2020 13:36

I am not sure what variant of the 10 it is, but the Canadian Aerospace Museum says it's a 10. There is some engine commonality between the 10 and the 16 models notably the Kinner and Warner Super Scarab.


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