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Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 11270807)
Might be an S-M 81....?
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Originally Posted by Self loading bear
(Post 11270913)
I was thinking Siebel 204
(Siebel is one of the largest jewelry stores in the Netherlands) It's a screenshot from a movie - about to come outta that door is actor James Mason. |
"The Desert Rats"? Mason played Rommel in that - could be a JU51 with the Cross painted over the rear window aft of the door?
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Then it is simples.
Way ahead of current move to change from fossil fuels. |
From the door, window and wing trailing edge I would guess at an Electra 10.
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Originally Posted by ea200
(Post 11271424)
Electra
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8b920c9f12.jpg |
Away at the moment and having trouble accessing pictures so Open House I'm afraid.
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Originally Posted by Self loading bear
(Post 11272550)
Thought it was a really early wing-warper but not so sure looking at the wing (and that would be far too easy!) Is it post 1914 Bear? |
Post 1914 indeed, you can see a bit of an aileron at the end of the wing.
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Holy late recognition BATman! - a twin boomer?!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f172f0cde8.jpg |
Ahhhh - well after 1914 then!
I think Noyade needs to name the challenge tho! Not sure that's the most comfortable (or quiet) cockpit I've ever seen PS "you can see a bit of an aileron" yes - that was what turned me to a later design than the Earlies. |
Great photo Noyade!
Dual stick controls that is interesting! First one with full designation (regering to the designer) & number gets the honors! |
"Dual stick controls that is interesting!2
maybe they got them from a tank............ |
With the engine's name included that things a veritable menagerie!
And by all accounts flew like one too. Dual sticks? Nay, that's just an early version of HOTAS. |
That Lockheed 10 (Electra) looks a whole lot more like a Lockheed 12 to me! A rather slimmer aircraft altogether, also sometimes known as an Electra Junior.
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Originally Posted by dduxbury310
(Post 11273673)
That Lockheed 10 (Electra) looks a whole lot more like a Lockheed 12 to me! A rather slimmer aircraft altogether, also sometimes known as an Electra Junior.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b245778923.jpg |
The flying bathtub is the BAT F.K. 28 Crow.
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Looks rather fun, similar to the Demoiselle. Always rather fancied one of those after seeing "Magnificent Men" though if Joan Hughes was the only one who could fly it and I probably weigh getting on for double... I believe Santos-Dumont was quite slight?
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The photograph seems to show a tractor propeller, but Wikipedia speaks of a pusher prop. Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by washoutt
(Post 11273855)
The photograph seems to show a tractor propeller, but Wikipedia speaks of a pusher prop. Am I missing something?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....627e48466e.jpg |
Thanks Bear!
Open House. |
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Well, I call the engine an Armstrong-Siddeley Serval, but darned if I can match the airframe to it.
Wapiti is as close as I can get but that pairing was never made afaik. |
Thanks for pointing me to the Armstrong-Siddeley engines
I think it is a 14 cylinder I therefore stab at the AW-19 recall that: AW-19 doesn’t have a cross bar between the wheels. perhaps a Fairey IIIE with ferret engine. Or a Fairey Seal or Gordon but it doesn’t match the AS panther engine which was normally fitted. |
Originally Posted by meleagertoo
(Post 11278267)
Serval
It is British - but not from Fairey. Only three aircraft built... |
I'm throwing in the ANEC III.
Originally three made with RR engines and delivered to Australia. One crashed and the remaining two then equipped with the A-S Jaguar engines. So, if my guess is correct, most likely even though being british, that picture is taken in Australia in between 1928 and 1932. |
Yes. The ANEC III re-engined with the Jupiter in Australia.
Over to you Beamer. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....694e900fdb.jpg |
That engine change managed to convert a very ugly-looking aircraft to one that just looks totally weird to the onlooker!
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Thank you Noyade! I'd be interested in the C of G properties of the aircraft after the engine swap....
What would you have to say about this? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....37c58fe9e3.jpg |
it isn't exactly a delta wing, quite the opposite.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b30ba420f5.jpg |
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That's the one, the pagan butterfly. And for me it is not that bad looking aircraft either.
Ball's back in your corner, Noyade. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3aece05fd3.jpg |
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USA.
Reasonably well known manufacturer. They built aircraft for the US Army and Navy and a variety of single and two-seat biplanes. Only three built. Listed in Aerofiles on a dedicated page for the manufacturer - but no photo. |
Some big stretches of water involved here I believe.
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I want to say a Curtis Small America but I can't find one with those engines, and the characteristic Curtis flared hull doesn't seem to be there. Shame the tail's obscured, that'd be a game-changer.
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I had a little accident. Difficult typing.
I'll close this one with OPEN HOUSE. Great Lakes 4-A-1 https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1cd2c3665f.jpg |
Little accident? That looks like a great big one to me, either that or excessive packaging a la Amazon. Sorry to see that, hope you have a swift and pain free recovery!
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