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meleagertoo 22nd Oct 2022 13:02

It certainly seems a crazy way to overcomplicate the matter but there were a number of them beforeWW2.

Here's a British one, incorrectly labelled "world's first" which it manifestly was not.
https://www.britishpathe.com/video/f...r-in-the-world

btw, Asturias, in what way was the Cid a "first"?

This one was the first though, an Archdeacon-Voisin of 1905 I think. Or is it just an elaborate pedalo?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....67d69b7181.png

Asturias56 22nd Oct 2022 16:24

For the record meleagertoo is correct - I had a bad moment when I realised I'd left in the Portuguese flag but it was so small.......

It was, I believe, the First Portuguese designed and constructed aircraft. They'd built a lot of stuff under Licence before but nothing indigenous

First Portuguese Airplane: A Flying-Boat Glider―1934

On February 1st 1934 Joe Walter presented a gliding section creation proposal where it was included the flight report study and the flight graph of the flying-boat glider of Eng. Artur Varela Cid, the first designed and constructed in Portugal (construction finished in 29 September 1932) with its first maiden flight on January 4th 1934. This flying-boat glider was named “Portugal” and presently can be found at the Air Museum of OGMA, Oficinas Gerais de Material Aeronáutico (The General Aeronautical Material Workshops) at Alverca, Portugal. Few months later still in 1934, in a lecture at Society of Geography at Lisbon, Professor Varela Cid advocates the creation of Non-Pow- ered Flight Schools, where gliders construction would be included and where rigorous theoretical training would be given.

meleagertoo 22nd Oct 2022 22:23

OK.
Here comes the next one.

No doubt Asturias will recognise it as if it were one of his grandkids!

This one really is an oddity though. As far as I can tell a genuine global one off, not a mere local "first".



https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....88544d9ebf.png

Asturias56 23rd Oct 2022 08:07

I do recognise it - now that REALLY is a one off (thank god). You wonder what drives some people to build something like that - most of us might have the idea and then laugh but he had to go and build one.

I'll leave it for others.:p

Noyade 24th Oct 2022 06:11

Don't lean back in the cockpit....


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2edda20745.gif

jolihokistix 24th Oct 2022 06:50

Avro Short ‘Back ‘n sides’.

Asturias56 24th Oct 2022 07:51

That prop must have folded in some way for the alternative use of the rest of the plane. There are pictures of it flying but not doing the other task - or I haven't seen them

longer ron 24th Oct 2022 08:38


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11318961)
That prop must have folded in some way for the alternative use of the rest of the plane. There are pictures of it flying but not doing the other task - or I haven't seen them

Even worse than that LOL - I believe the 'pilot' had to remove the prop before submerging :)

meleagertoo 24th Oct 2022 23:37

For God's sake someome just name the dam thing and we can hopefully progress beyond yet futher depths of Asturias's and Noyade's encyclopaedic minds.

Zaxis 24th Oct 2022 23:45

Reid Flying Submarine 1

Asturias56 25th Oct 2022 08:18

"yet futher depths of Asturias's and Noyade's encyclopaedic minds."

If only - I can't speak for Noyade but my mind resembles a colander - a vast amount of info passes through but what is caught are the lumpy, unpleasant bits you really want to ditch............... :(

meleagertoo 25th Oct 2022 12:40

Zaxis has it!

Self loading bear 25th Oct 2022 15:11

I have found 2 pictures partly submerged.
I think not completely the right attitude.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....98a5bda7c.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e24a0dabf.jpeg

treadigraph 25th Oct 2022 16:05


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11319788)
I have found 2 pictures partly submerged.
I think not completely the right attitude.


Was it nicknamed the Turtlesh!t?

meleagertoo 25th Oct 2022 19:18

Croc'o'**** more like.

Asturias56 26th Oct 2022 07:46

How things have changed! These days he'd be all over the media claiming he had the backing of major"investors", was going to build at 100 a month at (insert name of gullible local government) and it would be fully certified in 12 months

Zaxis 26th Oct 2022 15:30

The Flying Submarine kept me busy for hours, this I hope is easier

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f096b77b3c.jpg

Noyade 26th Oct 2022 19:52

Very clever cropping Zaxis! :ok:

Zaxis 27th Oct 2022 15:26

Very clever hiding the answer in a hyperlink! :cool:
Do you want control??

Noyade 27th Oct 2022 21:16

No thanks mate. Take another turn of make it open house. Cheers! :ok:


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