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Asturias56 20th Dec 2023 07:36

British?

India Four Two 21st Dec 2023 03:47

Yes, it's British.

Asturias56 21st Dec 2023 07:30

First flight post 1 Jan 1919?

India Four Two 21st Dec 2023 12:25

First flight before 1919. A modified version of a fairly well-known bi-plane.

Asturias56 21st Dec 2023 13:05

significant production or a one off?

India Four Two 21st Dec 2023 15:18

It was a one-off.

Asturias56 21st Dec 2023 16:30

single seater??

Asturias56 22nd Dec 2023 08:48

looks like a Bristol Scout type - maybe the SSA as only one was ever built

India Four Two 22nd Dec 2023 09:55

Not from Bristol. A distinguishing feature of this one-off, compared to the type it was derived from, is the lack of stagger.

Allan Lupton 22nd Dec 2023 15:05

One of Sopwith's developments?

Asturias56 22nd Dec 2023 17:14

Could be ........ looks a bit like the Sopwith Camel but only one built - thought it might be the Snail but the engine looks wrong. The Bee also looks close but the gap between the fuselage and the upper wing is too big in the challenge.

The undercarriage looks like the Whitehead Comet or Scout - which was a take on the Pup - not even sure if it flew................... :(

India Four Two 22nd Dec 2023 19:47

50% correct, It's a Sopwith aircraft, but much earlier than the Camel.

Noyade 22nd Dec 2023 20:33

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a9dafd1d13.jpg

India Four Two 23rd Dec 2023 03:28

Noyade wins the trophy and has control.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6f29cfc36e.jpg

Asturias56 23rd Dec 2023 08:29

Bloody hell ! that 's an advanced design for 1914


India Four Two 23rd Dec 2023 10:34

I agree. I had to double-check the date!

Noyade 23rd Dec 2023 21:59

Cheers Simon!


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Asturias56 24th Dec 2023 07:45

Flying boat?

American??

Self loading bear 24th Dec 2023 08:35


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11561579)

Business seat pods, the early years
or
Sorry madam, your flight has been canned.

Herod 24th Dec 2023 16:50

Lighter-than-air?

Noyade 24th Dec 2023 23:43

American transport aircraft fitted out with long range tanks for a special flight. Not a flying-boat, but it did end up in the ocean. :)


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....34bc7a192c.jpg

Merry Christmas! :ok:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2ea03be4d3.jpg


Self loading bear 25th Dec 2023 16:20

Not too many American Transport Triplanes.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6f0f2757.jpeg

meleagertoo 25th Dec 2023 22:42


​​Not too many American Transport Triplanes.​​​​​
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6f2f6ae31c.png

Noyade 26th Dec 2023 07:05

Anyone wanna name it?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6a28e96f3.jpg

BEagle 26th Dec 2023 07:56

It's the Catron & Fisk CF-10.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catron_%26_Fisk_CF-10 .

Noyade 26th Dec 2023 18:50

:ok:
Over to you BEagle.

BEagle 26th Dec 2023 19:51

OK:-


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6d82cc634.jpg

kcockayne 26th Dec 2023 19:57

Fairey Delta 2 ?

Zaxis 26th Dec 2023 20:32

Bristol T188

oncemorealoft 26th Dec 2023 20:33

Bristol 188?

fitliker 26th Dec 2023 20:49

This one is needling me :)

chevvron 26th Dec 2023 22:51

The Stainless Steel Rat.(SF novel)

Asturias56 27th Dec 2023 11:18

That's not an FD2 cockpit IIRC it was two glass panes with a central bar

chevvron 27th Dec 2023 11:56

First appeared at Farnborough in 1962, cancelled before the next Farnborough in 1964

BEagle 27th Dec 2023 16:46

Zaxis, you have control - it is indeed the 'Flaming Pencil', the Bristol T188!

Someone I knew who worked with it at the ground monitoring site said that by the time it had reached its operating altitude, there wasn't enough fuel left for it to reach its supersonic target speed before it had to return to base!

A pity that it didn't have rather more fuel efficient engines, but it was amazing for its day!

Zaxis 27th Dec 2023 18:17

Thank you BEagle. That was a close run win.
The T188 has alway been a favourite, especially the air brakes!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6ebc0a0fd2.png

To go to the other end of the speed spectrum I'll offer up this to identify ....
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2013fefff5.png


longer ron 27th Dec 2023 20:21


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11562938)
Zaxis, you have control - it is indeed the 'Flaming Pencil', the Bristol T188!
A pity that it didn't have rather more fuel efficient engines, but it was amazing for its day!

I can never understand why they did not junk those absolutely useless Gyron Juniors and fit (say) Avons,the gyrons were never ever sorted properly - little wonder that poor old Godfrey Auty was voted ''the pilot most likely to eject'' at the ETPS Dinner.
Never mind the 188 - the Gyron Juniors were lethal in the Bucc S1 as well :eek:

Asturias56 28th Dec 2023 07:15

"A pity that it didn't have rather more fuel efficient engines, but it was amazing for its day!"

Well that's one way of putting it - a design that was totally flawed - the only one I can think of that was worse was the ?Blackburn? post war strike aircraft that as built couldn't fit the design requirement torpdeo....................

Asturias56 28th Dec 2023 07:17

The immediate reaction to the challenge was Farman - they seem to have standardised on a single surface up front

but it isn't - is it European?

BEagle 28th Dec 2023 09:39

European - Scottish, in fact!


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