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rotarywrench 21st Feb 2021 19:50

It sure has some MBB 223 Flamingoheritage central pedestal, same knobs, size, and vintage but of course not the yokes and panel are totally different.

Self loading bear 21st Feb 2021 19:57


Originally Posted by rotarywrench (Post 10994973)
It sure has some MBB 223 Flamingoheritage central pedestal, same knobs, size, and vintage but of course not the yokes and panel are totally different.

Then you have one of the contributing manufacturers.
Shouldn’t take long now.

Self loading bear 22nd Feb 2021 21:02

Time for a last clue:
The aircraft has no metallic structure.

Archer4 23rd Feb 2021 09:36

Is this the MBB 223-M4? MBB 223 fitted with a Porsche engine. And currently in the museum in Schleissheim, Munich?

Self loading bear 23rd Feb 2021 15:22

No it is not an aircraft built by MBB alone but MBB contributed the Glassfibre knowledge for this plane.

rotarywrench 23rd Feb 2021 16:40

MBB / Siebelwerke ATG GmbH (SIAT) 223 Flamingo ? It was also built under license by CASA in Spain, but I do not know the variant/engine.


Self loading bear 24th Feb 2021 19:15

I am starting to doubt if this would help?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7554b77d1.jpeg

asw28-866 24th Feb 2021 21:05

LFU205, interesting experimental aircraft, exploring the then new application of GRP construction for powered aircraft. The German glider fraternity were very much in the same realm as construction moved from wood/fabric to GRP. Nothing to hand so OH I’m afraid if correct.

An interesting challenge too!

Self loading bear 24th Feb 2021 22:15

ASW finally got it right with the Leichtflugtechnik-Union (LFU) consortium 205.

Indeed initially build to research use of GRP in small aircraft.
From there is was used to measure drag and lift, study boundary layer and transition from laminar flow into tubulencey. Then testing laminar flow airfoils. Last testing was measuring influence of sun radiation into temperature of the wing surface.

Open House declared.

Jhieminga 25th Feb 2021 09:07

Interesting type, but I had never heard of it before :uhoh: It turned up at Schleissheim after my last visit to the place...

asw28-866 25th Feb 2021 09:33

Think I've used it before (photo is by me in my then machine), but appropriate to the theme started by SLB and the LFU205...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4d43bde00f.jpg
(will happily withdraw if someone has something new to hand)

meleagertoo 25th Feb 2021 13:00

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c69ced736f.png
I reckon that's a Libelle Condor...and if it flies as exquisitely as it looks I want one!

asw28-866 26th Feb 2021 03:07

Close enough Meleagertoo,

It is the cockpit of my then glider a, Glasflugel H-201 Libelle. Linkage with the LFU205 it that it set the standard for GRP sailplane construction in the late 1960's. Particularly for it's use of a foam, rather than balsa, sandwich construction for the wings. Something like 600 built, which for the sailplane fraternity is enormous.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6475300107.jpg

And yes, quite delightful to fly, though rather light and lacking in high speed polar performance by modern standards.

Meleagertoo has control.

UV 26th Feb 2021 09:36

Asw28, If this was “which aerodrome” I would say that pic of your Libelle was taken at Bidford?

asw28-866 26th Feb 2021 20:23

UV, and you would be correct! 518 was based at Duxford/Gransden Lodge with what was then Cambridge University Gliding Club. However for a period around 1990 a family group would convene at Bidford, hosted by Barry and Mo, for a gliding holiday.

Happy days.

meleagertoo 26th Feb 2021 22:34

Open House again.

Noyade 28th Feb 2021 07:00

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c0b8db486.jpg

Noyade 2nd Mar 2021 03:33

Fourteen built. Last two were named Everest and Enterprise.

India Four Two 2nd Mar 2021 07:04

Everest and Enterprise.

Let’s not forget Egeria, Elsinore, Euterpe, Ettrick, Elysian, Endymion, Eddystone, Elysean and Euryalus. All members of the Ensign class, which was the name of the prototype A.W. 27.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....33017df2b4.jpg


I can only find twelve names. Were the other two unnamed?

cavuman1 2nd Mar 2021 22:40

Eeyore and Euchre?

- Ed ;)


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