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Kitbag 22nd May 2015 17:03

Right country, but not a Yak

evansb 22nd May 2015 17:27

Lavochkin Lagg-3?

Regardless of its deficiencies, the Lagg-3 was preferred over the Hurricane by Soviet pilots.

Kitbag 22nd May 2015 17:48

Correct, the LaGG 3. Probably preferred because of the heavier armament, however it later was known as the guaranteed varnished coffin.

YHC

evansb 22nd May 2015 18:14

Indeed. Thank you. Ok, photobucket problems solved. Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/...20is20that.jpg

Cubs2jets 23rd May 2015 01:49

ROC Skua?

C2j

evansb 23rd May 2015 03:11

Sorry, not the Skua, but close..

Terry Dactil 23rd May 2015 04:19

You just gotta love British WW2 cockpit design. :ok:
A gun firing button on the stick, but no sign of a gunsight anywhere.
Instead, pride of place on top of the instrument panel looks like the undercarriage warning lights and a clock!

India Four Two 23rd May 2015 05:05

Manufacturer's name begins with the same letter?

TheiC 23rd May 2015 06:30


Instead, pride of place on top of the instrument panel looks like the undercarriage warning lights and a clock!
Ah, reactive design, I suspect, addressing the two big problems at the time:

Wheels up landings and arriving late for things.

oldpax 23rd May 2015 13:25

Early jet?
 
Meteor?An early mark perhaps?

evansb 23rd May 2015 15:13

Jenkins is correct.:ok: The Boulton Paul Defiant. Your turn.

India Four Two 23rd May 2015 21:27

After doing some reading on the Defiant, I see that there was a mode where the turret could be trained forward and the pilot could control the firing.

The minimum elevation angle was 19° (prop clearance?) and apparently it wasn't used much, but I imagine the sight of four tracer streams coming from behind your head must have been an interesting experience! :eek:

Noyade 24th May 2015 06:37

Another one to look at...

http://i59.tinypic.com/2hi46r9.jpg

Kitbag 24th May 2015 11:59

The style of the instrument panel puts me in mind of a mid 20's ac, but the radio? lh side below the instrument panel looks like it's replaced a larger unit, and that spade grip without a firing button is just plain puzzling.

oldpax 24th May 2015 14:36

Training A/C
 
Late model Avro 504!!!

Terry Dactil 24th May 2015 21:21

That is an early 'Gentleman's Flying Machine'.
Notice how the unnecessary tradesman's tools and instruments have been discarded in favour of luxury items.
The compass has been replaced by a biscuit tin to store your cucumber sandwiches in, and there is an original CD player just to the left of it.
The radio would be to talk to your stock broker while you aviated above your estate checking that the staff were correctly arranging the pebbles in the gravel driveway and polishing the leaves on the rhododendrons.
Ahh, the good old days to be a pilot. It has all gone downhill since then! :E

Noyade 24th May 2015 21:55

G'day gents.

- 1919 is the year Kitbag. Yes, a radio. A T.55A set supplied by the Air Ministry (I'm not sure if that's the one depicted - the original one was replaced). It also carried a lifeboat.
- Jenkins, not a mail plane and not from De Havilland.
- Oldpax, not from Avro and not designed for training.

This aircraft was built for only one purpose in mind.

Terry, time to cut back on the medication. :)

NutherA2 24th May 2015 22:27

Wild guess :- Bristol Type 138?

Noyade 24th May 2015 23:02

No mate. We're looking at 1919 and not a Bristol product.

Terry Dactil 25th May 2015 05:26

Aha! Clues!

This aircraft was built for only one purpose in mind.
It also carried a lifeboat.
How about the Sopwith Atlantic then.
Only one was built in 1919 specifically to compete for the first non-stop crossing of the Atlantic, and the rear fuselage decking formed a lifeboat.
(I still wish it had been a 'Gentleman's Flying Machine' though)


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