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LTNman 2nd Nov 2017 07:12

They used to place adverts in the airports yearly publications.

https://i.imgur.com/HUbdph7.jpg

lotus1 2nd Nov 2017 07:51

I remember them one caravelle had the registration I GISA and I beleive another one had a serious engine explosion at Rome which burnt the fusalge and wrote the plane off a very nice striking blue scheme last time saw them at Luton was around 85/86 got picture some where

kenparry 2nd Nov 2017 08:03


were they made by someone called something like Houchin.
Yes; Houchin make ground support equipment, including air start compressors and towable generator sets.

They are still around: see Houchin ? ITW GSE

dc9-32 2nd Nov 2017 08:40

Ah Altair and the SE210 started one day with jump leads off a GPU !!

SpringHeeledJack 2nd Nov 2017 10:14

Wasn't there also an Alitalia subsidiary that flew charters etc in Alitalia colours but with other titles (name ?) and they used Caravelles and DC-9's ? I seem to remember them in LGW and perhaps LTN and STN.

LTNman 2nd Nov 2017 10:26

One of these?

https://i.imgur.com/9hIvGtq.jpg
Luton Anorak

https://i.imgur.com/QcVvA5z.jpg
Luton Anorak

and of course the real thing

https://i.imgur.com/VCT2wLC.jpg
Luton Anorak

lotus1 2nd Nov 2017 10:53

Love the pictures especially in the background pink courtline tristar was this around 73/74 last time last saw this was when they went bankrupt and parked at Luton waiting for a buyer possible cathypacific great pictures

rog747 2nd Nov 2017 11:20

SAM was a DC6 and Caravelle
the charter operator of Alitalia

SpringHeeledJack 2nd Nov 2017 11:28

Yup! Those are the ones. Thanks for the great photos. I used to love the way the same IT charters seemed to all arrive in as a straggly squadron, no doubt to do with their Holiday company client who wanted all the passengers to be together to make logistics easier.

LTNman 2nd Nov 2017 11:39

Next to 2 Alitalia's there seems to be another Caravelle plus another one on the pond.

boeing_eng 2nd Nov 2017 11:41

Another pic...apparently from another div day in 1977:

https://picclick.ie/Airliner-Slide-L...l#&gid=1&pid=1

G-BBEE is interesting...pretty sure it was the first Learjet on the UK register....puzzling to see the Tridents (thought they were CAT 3B by then?)

rog747 2nd Nov 2017 12:25

old tour companies and charter airlines LTN et al
 

Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack (Post 9944290)
Yup! Those are the ones. Thanks for the great photos. I used to love the way the same IT charters seemed to all arrive in as a straggly squadron, no doubt to do with their Holiday company client who wanted all the passengers to be together to make logistics easier.

some useless info below lol :ok::):)

the LTN tour companies 60's-80s'

CIT for Italy SAM DC-6 Caravelle

and Yugotours were inexadria aviogenex and JAT DC9 TU134 727 707
plus Balkan Holidays and Sunquest used Tarom charters Bulair/Tabso/Balkan
IL-18 TU-154 1-11 400

Belle Air were Air Malta 720B
Lyons Tours British Midland 1-11 500
Cosmos Monarch Britannia's 720B 1-11 737-200 757
Skytours/Riviera/Gaytours/Thomson/Portland and Budget Holidays used
Britannia Britannia's 737-200 707-320C 720B
Clarksons Autair/Court 1-11 400/500 Tristar Dan Air Comet

Lunn Poly/Everyman was LHR using British Eagle Britannia's 1-11 300 707-138B then Dan Air set up the 1-11 400 fleet from LTN 1969

VistaJet Air Spain DC-8 LTN (plus MAN LGW GLA BHX)

LGW main operators were:

CIT SAM as above
Yugotours as above plus Tarom IL-62
Horizon/4S BUA 1-11 500 VC-10 (then Cale//BUA BCAL) then after buy out in 1973 Court 1-11 500 and Air Spain DC-8
Lord Bros Laker 1-11 300 707-138B DC-10 10/30
Global Caledonian 1-11 500 707-320C Cambrian 1-11 400 Dan Air Comet 727-100 BMA 1-11 500
Wings used BUA and Laker
Intasun/Lancaster Air Europe 737-200 757
Enterprise Flair Hickie Borman Martin Rooks Thomas Cook BEA airtours Comet 707-436 Tristar
Pontinental Spantax Coronado
Clarksons Dan Air Comet 727-100

from late 80's
Owners Abroad Air 2000 757
before that a huge program with Dan Air Aviaco

BHX/CDD/EMA
Horizon (midlands) Orion 737-200
British Midland 1-11 500 707-320C

LHR
Swans Tours BKS/Northeast Trident 1E
Sovereign and Silver Wing BEA/BA GibAir mainline fleet Vanguard and Trident
Cambrian 1-11 400
Cadogan BEA/BA/GibAir as above
Enterprise BOAC 747-100 (PMI)

MAN
Clarksons Dan Air Comet 727-100
Arrowsmith British Midland then Laker 1-11 300 707-138B DC-10 10/30
Thomas Cook Dan Air Comet 727-100
Global Caledonian 707-320C 1-11 500 (and GLA too) Dan Air Comet 727-100
Yugotours and Balkan Holidays as above

SEN STN
Leroy and Lyons Tours Channel Airways 1-11 400 Trident 1E Comets
Tom Hill holidays and the travel club upminster Transeuropa Caravelles

also: Spanish airlines
Aviaco was a big player with Caravelle DC8-52 & 63 DC-9 often using Iberia aircraft including their 747
Spantax flew for many holiday companies into all of the UK including BHX and EXT Coronado DC-9 15/32 DC-8 61 DC-10 30
TAE Caravelle and DC-8 32/52

BIA 1-11 400/500 were seen all over and used by many smaller tour Ops.

rog747 2nd Nov 2017 12:27

4 caravelles
 

Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 9944297)
Next to 2 Alitalia's there seems to be another Caravelle plus another one on the pond.

footie day?

rare for SAM/AZ to have 4 at once for holiday IT's

treadigraph 2nd Nov 2017 13:30


Originally Posted by boeing_eng (Post 9944299)
A
G-BBEE is interesting...pretty sure it was the first Learjet on the UK register....

It was. Recall seeing it depart Heathrow 28L one afternoon in the late 1970s, held low until past T3, then into a near vertical climb to about 2000'.

lotus1 2nd Nov 2017 14:46

I also remember the sterling caravelles landing the black smoke comming from there engines while landing was a sight .

SpringHeeledJack 2nd Nov 2017 15:37

Not strictly LTN, but it's then poorer neighbour Stansted, used to have a Scandinvasion every sunday evening when Caravelles of Sterling, 720's of Maersk and DC8's of Sunair (?) which arrived to ferry bus loads of students etc to the UK. It seemed the busiest time of the week at an otherwise empty STN. Did LTN also have some of these aluminium armadas from Scandinavia ? I realise that UK holiday makers were flown out in several aircraft from LTN on behalf of Pontinental etc, but was the reverse with foreigners arriving en masse to savour the delights of 1970s London, also true ?

JW411 2nd Nov 2017 17:50

Boeing Eng:

"....Puzzling to see the Tridents (thought they were CAT3B by then)"

Don't forget that although the aircraft might be certificated for CAT3B operation, that assumes that ABSOLUTELY EVERY component in the system in that specific aircraft is fully serviceable otherwise it is downgraded to CAT1.

Don't forget that every member of the crew has to have been trained in CAT3B operations and also has to be ABSOLUTELY CURRENT to be allowed to operate to CAT3B limits.

I never flew the Trident but it has happened to me on other aircraft that I have been screwed because the aircraft and I were fully current but the first officer was not.

boeing_eng 2nd Nov 2017 18:09

Yep....fully aware of the limitations of Autoland systems (I deal with them every day!) :ok:

My hunch is that there were probably issues with LHR's ILS given the multiple a/c present....

lotus1 2nd Nov 2017 21:11

Remember seeing Catair and Minerva caravelles as well at Luton possible ski charters or rugby charters they where the days

Luton Anorak 2nd Nov 2017 21:46


Originally Posted by lotus1 (Post 9944254)
Love the pictures especially in the background pink courtline tristar was this around 73/74 last time last saw this was when they went bankrupt and parked at Luton waiting for a buyer possible cathypacific great pictures

They were taken by me on the 14th November 1973 - there were five Caravelle's in total bringing in Italian football supporters for a game at Wembley between Italy and England (a friendly which Italy won 1-0).


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