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jensdad 2nd Nov 2017 21:47

I'm absolutely loving this thread, especially the photo of the four Alitalia / SAM Caravelles on the ground at the same time. I do wonder whether future generations will have the same fascination with a photo of four TUI 737s on the ground at the same time! I hope so.

LTNman 2nd Nov 2017 23:13

The great thing about this thread is that while the common theme will always be about Luton the daily subject matter seems to cover so many different subjects. A couple of weeks ago all the posts were about Proctors, today we are talking about Italian airline Caravelles.

Hard to say when Luton had its most interesting period, as it will always be down to when people here first started wearing their rose tinted glasses.

I do remember my first visits to Luton when if I got my timings wrong there were next to no movements. Then the excitement would start to stir when I could hear a sole aircraft breaking the silence as it started its engines.

I got into the habit of timing my Sunday visits to a 3 hour time period when Luton used to get a bunch of movements over a short period before the famine started again.

Never forgot the piercing sound a BM Viscount used to make as it taxied past. It was fingers in the ears time.

LTNman 3rd Nov 2017 05:32


Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack (Post 9944479)
Not strictly LTN, but it's then poorer neighbour Stansted, used to have a Scandinvasion every sunday evening when Caravelles of Sterling, 720's of Maersk and DC8's of Sunair (?) which arrived to ferry bus loads of students etc to the UK. It seemed the busiest time of the week at an otherwise empty STN. Did LTN also have some of these aluminium armadas from Scandinavia ? I realise that UK holiday makers were flown out in several aircraft from LTN on behalf of Pontinental etc, but was the reverse with foreigners arriving en masse to savour the delights of 1970s London, also true ?

I think Luton picked up some Scandinavian traffic for at least one year before it retreated back to Stansted.

I am assuming this day was diversions.

https://i.imgur.com/cI1LewJ.jpg
unknown

boeing_eng 3rd Nov 2017 10:02

There was a Sterling invasion at LTN particularly on Sundays in the late 70's (as CJ has already mentioned a few pages back)

As far as interesting periods go, the lack of variety of types in the air these days will obviously make the days gone by seem far more interesting. I do recall how quiet the airport was at times in the late 70's through to the mid- 90's. However, this is what gave the airport more scope to accept a lot of diversions or a large amounts of visitors for events such as international football matches or other events as portrayed in pictures on this thread....:ok:

cj241101 3rd Nov 2017 10:47


Originally Posted by boeing_eng (Post 9945233)
There was a Sterling invasion at LTN particularly on Sundays in the late 70's (as CJ has already mentioned a few pages back)

A lot of pages back, actually! (starts page 37).

Sterling switched 4 flights a week to Luton in April 1976. all Caravelles. Summer 1977 saw around 10 flights per week of which 6 were on a Sunday, including the first 727 flight Sun evening. Summer 1978 programme below (local times), with a 727 and 2 Caravelles on the ground at the same time on Sunday mornings. I suspect the photo above dates from then - definitely morning from the angle of the sun.
https://i.imgur.com/jtvys0G.jpg

cj241101 3rd Nov 2017 11:11


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 9945036)
I think Luton picked up some Scandinavian traffic for at least one year before it retreated back to Stansted.

Further to my previous, Sterling remained at Luton until spring 1981. Peak summer (i.e. June-August) 1978 and 1979 saw Scanair / S.A.S. with DC-8's, DC-9's and DC-10's plus flights by Kar Air, Maersk Air, Braathens, Linjeflyg and Transair Sweden. Scanair and Kar Air operated summer 1980 before defecting elsewhere.

LTNman 3rd Nov 2017 15:05

cj241101 And there I was waiting for you to produce a photo of an Altair Caravelle

Level bust 3rd Nov 2017 16:42

I have one, but unfortunately, it won't let me download it so I can post it!

boeing_eng 3rd Nov 2017 18:25

Here's one of mine!....I-GISA (Circa 1982/3)....

https://filebin.net/oszs2886gluv71pf/i-gisa.jpg

LGS6753 3rd Nov 2017 18:35

Speaking of peak days due to sports events, there was a Dutch invasion in the early 70s (?) which involved Transavia, KLM & Martinair - Caravelles, DC-8, DC-8-63, DC-9 & F28.
I remember the apron being full, but not certain when it was. I think the team was called Ajax.
Anyone have any photos of that?

LTNman 3rd Nov 2017 18:38

I remember Altair in a 2 tone blue.

https://i.imgur.com/fkoZFbd.jpg

boeing_eng 3rd Nov 2017 18:40

Sounds like the 1971 European Cup Final.......Ajax Vs Panathinaikos of Greece at Wembley on June 2nd....Before my time at LTN!

cj241101 3rd Nov 2017 19:28


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 9945764)
Speaking of peak days due to sports events, there was a Dutch invasion in the early 70s (?) which involved Transavia, KLM & Martinair - Caravelles, DC-8, DC-8-63, DC-9 & F28.
I remember the apron being full, but not certain when it was. I think the team was called Ajax.
Anyone have any photos of that?

8/4/70 Arsenal played Ajax at Highbury in the old European Fairs Cup. 3 KLM DC-8-50's, 1 KLM DC-8-63, 2 KLM DC-9-10's, 2 KLM DC-9-30's,1 Martinair DC-8-50, 1 Martinair DC-9-30, 1 Martinair F-28, 1 Transavia Caravelle. Bear in mind that Luton didn't handle large 4-engined jets (not counting the Dan Air Comet 4's and the odd BUA VC-10 on diversion), had never seen a 707 until 25/1/70 when the Caledonian example diverted in and as far as I am aware had never seen a DC-8 before, so to get FIVE of them, including a -63 (34ft longer than a 707-320C) - well, just imagine the excitement generated. Note also the nose out parking - must have been interesting on start-up. Fortunately health and safety hadn't been invented....
My photos are mostly rubbish but I'll post them here and apologise in advance for the quality.
https://i.imgur.com/TTJXneD.jpg?1
PH-MAU

https://i.imgur.com/HvIIR2V.jpg?2
PH-MAU PH-TRN PH-MAR

https://i.imgur.com/7z5JeMb.jpg?1
PH-DEF

https://i.imgur.com/4u0gVG7.jpg?1
PH-DNA

https://i.imgur.com/8Vsef9F.jpg?1
PH-TRN PH-MAR

https://i.imgur.com/fDleuib.jpg
PH-MAT G-APND 9/4/70

The European Cup Final on 2/6/71 brought in a Pomair DC-8-30, Air Commerz 707-138B, Transavia 707 and several Transavia Caravelles. (I was on holiday in Cornwall and missed everything).

cj241101 3rd Nov 2017 19:43


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 9945577)
cj241101 And there I was waiting for you to produce a photo of an Altair Caravelle


It was on my to-do list...
https://i.imgur.com/9p3qLZs.jpg
28/12/82

https://i.imgur.com/FXlUFKH.jpg
28/7/82

https://i.imgur.com/dV0cLdx.jpg
28/7/84


https://i.imgur.com/mRE85j3.jpg?1
16/4/83

SpringHeeledJack 3rd Nov 2017 20:53

I'm loving the photos of the old liveries and aircraft, and if I may opine, the more raw images somehow have a charm of their own in that they were captured by a normal oik with a normal camera. A slice of LTN life back in the day.

I can't recall the airline 'Altair', but do remember seeing aircraft with that triangle on the tail, especially in the red livery and I recall seeing the Caravelles in the Air Inter livery at Paris Orly.

boeing_eng 3rd Nov 2017 22:23

Here's an interesting DC-9 scanned from one of my prints....It visited in April 1992.....I've no idea why it came to LTN but recall it certainly excited the local spotters!....


https://filebin.net/z3vy0v4zw80lkz1o/yv21catltn.jpg

SpringHeeledJack 4th Nov 2017 06:40

No wonder, back then the only Venezuelan visitor to the UK would've been Viasa at LHR. Is that a Fred Olsen Electra hiding behind it ?

boeing_eng 4th Nov 2017 08:58

Indeed it is......:ok:

cj241101 4th Nov 2017 10:53


Originally Posted by boeing_eng (Post 9945943)
Here's an interesting DC-9 scanned from one of my prints....It visited in April 1992.....I've no idea why it came to LTN but recall it certainly excited the local spotters!....


Aircraft was returning after lease, possibly from somewhere in the Middle East, routing Naples-Luton-Keflavik 9/10 April 1992. Had ferried eastbound via Reykjavik-Shannon-Nice on 1/2 February 1992.

I was working nights...
https://i.imgur.com/dMFyAd8.jpg

boeing_eng 4th Nov 2017 15:32

Thanks CJ....The lease sounds possibly Hajj related...no doubt the crew were sampling the delights of London! (similar to the more recent Alaska 737 ferry flights through LTN!)


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