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Zaxis 16th Jan 2015 05:47

It's not an American engine and there is an aircraft attached to it.

Kitbag 16th Jan 2015 15:51

Is it used for propulsion or is it some type of auxiliary power unit?

Zaxis 16th Jan 2015 18:30

It provides power for propulsion

Kitbag 16th Jan 2015 18:35

That's a very careful answer, how about something along the lines of an Alvis Leonides in the Fairey Gyrodyne?

Zaxis 16th Jan 2015 19:14

You're going in the right direction

evansb 16th Jan 2015 21:21

I'm baffled. This is the best I've got:


http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/.../ken_blimp.jpg

Zaxis 16th Jan 2015 21:42

Interesting but that's got wings..
Different angle..
http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/...pse60d6165.jpg

evansb 17th Jan 2015 01:17

Appears to be similar in layout to an earlier Von Baumhauer design, or even perhaps a Fletner design. Still baffled.

Zaxis 17th Jan 2015 06:12

Fletner is very close but on the other side of the fence.
There is a clue in the background, one of his later designs.

Kitbag 17th Jan 2015 07:35

Is the engine a BMW Bramo, for use in the Focke Achgelis FA223?

Zaxis 17th Jan 2015 19:58

Engine type eludes me, can't find what is despite lots of googling.
It dates from 1932 and was designed in Austria but soon left it.

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/...psb53a97b4.jpg

evansb 18th Jan 2015 01:26

The Hafner R.II?
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/...t/hafnerR2.gif

Check out this video of the Hafner & Nagler R.II Revoplane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIt1XnZJZKY

Zaxis 18th Jan 2015 11:27

Quite correct.
It's a long forgotten pioneer but still exists, sat in the Helicopter Museum on Weston Super Mare airfield.
The connection with Weston being that Raoul Hafner become chief designer for Bristol who occupied the far side of the airfield.
The YouTube video was a good find, I now know what the weird side panels were for.
YHC

evansb 18th Jan 2015 15:29

Thank you. That was a very interesting challenge.

Here is the next one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps9dfce888.jpg

Kitbag 18th Jan 2015 15:43

Looks like a twin Adour installation to me, perhaps on a display team jet?

Zaxis 18th Jan 2015 16:11

Mitsubishi F1?

Zaxis 18th Jan 2015 16:16

Or a T2?
Rather similar tail ends

evansb 18th Jan 2015 17:10

The photo is a Mitsubishi T-2, the tail configuration is nearly identical to the F-1.

Kitbag did identify the RR Turbomeca Adour type engine, which was produced under license in Japan and known as the Ishikawa-Harima TF40-801A.

Zaxis is correct. He has control.

Zaxis 18th Jan 2015 22:38

More bent metal...
What's this?
http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/...ps77d5c2d0.jpg

Kitbag 20th Jan 2015 08:10

I've stared at this for ages in vain so I'm stabbing in the dark with the Lunar Landing Research Vehicle


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