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cuefaye 2nd Apr 2013 18:50

-------- :bored:

Duckbutt 3rd Apr 2013 10:12

To relieve the boredom then:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ler/Puzz95.jpg

Lightning Mate 3rd Apr 2013 10:50

Morning Db.

Not been around of late.

Russian helicopters and the centre one might be an Mi4, so we may be in Russia or the old east Germany.

Duckbutt 3rd Apr 2013 10:58

We are, LM

Lightning Mate 3rd Apr 2013 17:40

Salzwedel ?

Duckbutt 3rd Apr 2013 22:27

Yes, Salzwedel - you have control. If the challenge had got stuck I also had this picture of the same field in an earlier incarnation:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...er/Puzz95a.jpg

Lightning Mate 4th Apr 2013 10:50

Apologies, but I have injured myself so it will have to be OH.

asw22 4th Apr 2013 12:35

Hello all!

I have been away for a while but I have no shortage of interesting european airfields!...Here it is:

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8834/pprune6.jpg

I am misericordious and will provide one clue:

JG2 - transition to Bf 109F

Lightning Mate 4th Apr 2013 14:12

Northern France?

Airclues 4th Apr 2013 19:37

Evreux, France?

OH if correct as just off t'pub.

Dave

cuefaye 4th Apr 2013 21:01


I have injured myself
Not the brain again?

asw22 5th Apr 2013 16:11

Northern France it is, Evreux it is not...

Another clue: nearby was a fighter command post of considerable operational importance (also, lot of remnants)

asw22 5th Apr 2013 16:21

Just for fun a view of the large hangar visible in the upper centre of the airfield photo:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5838/pprune6aux.jpg

Duckbutt 7th Apr 2013 09:43

Well I've found a copy of the 'hangar' photo which is labled 'Beauvais' but I can't tie in the first pic with anything on Google Earth though.

Perhaps later development of the nearby airfield together with the autoroute service area have changed the layout too much.

Allan Lupton 7th Apr 2013 12:08

The crescent-shaped wood and the one to its left look like those at the R101 crash site, generally referred to as near Beauvais so Duckbutt's on to something!

Lightning Mate 7th Apr 2013 13:18

Nivillers ?

asw22 7th Apr 2013 14:07

No, it is not Beauvais (Tillé), nor is it Nivillers. Look up north...The Fighter HQ I am referring to was code-named "PLUTO" by their german users...

Beauvais Tillé and Nivillers form a meta-airfield, they are connected together and in the case of Tillé are concrete runway equipped.

The photo I propose to your sagacity shows no such thing... If the hangar has been labelled Beauvais elsewhere, it is wrong but understandable; Beauvais had a great many hangars camouflaged as "farms" including a couple of them workshops 40 or 50m wide which warranted themselves this kind of "manor" camouflage.
If one looks closely to the photo you will notice two 40m hangars of this type. They have now disappeared but another airfield nearby has kept its example (devoid of the camouflage now!)...which makes it rather unique (only one other survivor of the type in Creil, this one never camouflaged)...

JV

Duckbutt 7th Apr 2013 21:48

Gotcha I reckon! St Pol-Bryas, just to the north of St Pol s/Ternoise?

TheChitterneFlyer 8th Apr 2013 17:25

I reckon you're right Duckbutt... how on earth did you find that neck of the woods?

TCF

Duckbutt 8th Apr 2013 18:16

TCF see pm.

asw22 8th Apr 2013 18:47

Excellent Duckbutt!

This is indeed Saint Pol/Brias ("y" not used nowadays). This place was used extensively by the JG2 and it was also where the pilots got acquainted with the 109F. There even was an unformal "Kommando saint Pol" dedicated to this task. Within the "chateau de Brias" grounds just at the north end of the place (I removed it from the photo) are the remnants of the JaFü 4 "Pluto" which was the fighter command post for all north of France and Belgium in 1943/1944.

How did you find out DB? In any case the floor is yours!

JV

Duckbutt 8th Apr 2013 19:55

To precis the pm I've sent to TCF in answer to the same question, I had nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon and spent some time digging around. Despite your best intentions I didn't get much help from your clues but eventually found Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields: France . In the Pas De Calais page there is a pic of a USAAF raid on an airfield and despite a different orientation, that distinctive curved wood is clearly visible. A check on Google Earth confirmed the road layout, especially that road coming in from the left at an angle. It's spelled 'Bryas' on that website. Good challenge.

Hope this meets the same high standard:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ler/Puzz96.jpg

Lightning Mate 9th Apr 2013 06:08

I just Goggled "Corsair aircraft named Kathleen"

One discussion site has come up with:


Also NZ5639 was named "Kathleen" in the later part of her tour in Japan.
That was 14 Sqn RNZAF, which should narrow it down a bit.....

Lightning Mate 9th Apr 2013 06:15

Further searching of that squadron reveals your photograph as taken at Iwakuni, Japan.

Should have airbrushed out the aircraft name mate. ;)

edit: this would have made it a lot more difficult, especially with no roundels.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps84c23eb3.jpg

Duckbutt 9th Apr 2013 07:36

Correct LM. Thought about airbrushing as suggested but it's always a dilemma on here as to how many clues you do leave in a picture.

All yours.

Lightning Mate 9th Apr 2013 08:20

Thanks Db.

Another for you all.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps165b95d6.jpg

aviate1138 9th Apr 2013 09:24

Bizerta Tunisia? Just flashed into my mind but not expecting any success. Hills seem too high......

Lightning Mate 9th Apr 2013 09:42

Morning aviate.

Not Tunisia I'm afraid.

evansb 9th Apr 2013 20:25

Comiso, Italy ?

chevvron 9th Apr 2013 23:11

Could it be Crete? Don't know the name of the airfield but there was one near mountains where the German invaders landed.

Lightning Mate 10th Apr 2013 06:04

Hot.

Not Crete but the right country. ;)

TheChitterneFlyer 10th Apr 2013 06:43

Molaoi airfield... Greece.

TCF

Lightning Mate 10th Apr 2013 07:37

Thar ye go. :D

Your stage.

TheChitterneFlyer 10th Apr 2013 17:42

My apologies chaps; I've nothing prepared to make a worthwhile challenge... Open House to the first to the post.

TCF

Noyade 10th Apr 2013 20:51

Here's one to be going on with...and I couldn't see it on Mel's list...

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ps36fp.jpg

asw22 10th Apr 2013 21:26

Rheine (Hopsten) in 1945...The black spots are of snow blown/melt by reactors of Me 262 on the start of their take off run ...

JV

Noyade 10th Apr 2013 21:38


Rheine
Well done mate - thought it might have lasted just a little longer though. :)

Your control.

asw22 11th Apr 2013 10:40

Here is one rather interesting:

- there are two airfields on this one (one WWII, one WWI)

- the bombing around the small wood in the center of photo was NOT due to the airfield presence...something else was there...

- the WWI airfield is known for a sad event concerning a well respected ace...

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3469/pprune7.jpg

Good search...;)

JV

Lightning Mate 11th Apr 2013 11:31

Bonjour asw.

France and used by the Luftwaffe?

Duckbutt 11th Apr 2013 13:29

I suggest the WW1 airfield is Auxi Le Chateau, to the NE of Abbeville. It was taking off from this field that the RFC Pilot James McCudden VC crashed and was fatally injured on the 9th July 1918.

I confess I do not know the identity of the WW2 airfield or why the wood was bombed.

Edited to add that it would seem the wood was a V2 site. It was named after the nearby village of Acquet.


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