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sycamore 6th May 2013 10:33

Must be a volcano,highest is `Haut Dong Nai`...OH if correct

India Four Two 6th May 2013 15:05

sycamore,

You are getting there!

However, Haut Dong Nai is on a plateau. This mountain is described as a volcano, but it might be a volcanic plug and it is not on a plateau. The base is close to sea-level.

sycamore 6th May 2013 18:32

Hows about `bas Dong Nai`.....

India Four Two 7th May 2013 01:22

Nice try but no. ;)

There is no other mountain as tall as this within 70 miles and only a small number of low hills in between.

Lordflasheart 7th May 2013 21:38

Nui Ba Den - Black Virgin Mountain - Tay Ninh province SVN - would make it perhaps Tay Ninh (West ?) Airfield. Lots of action -

but I can't for the life of me make any connection with the H-21.

sycamore 7th May 2013 22:06

Must be Toerong Prong,NE of Dak To..?

India Four Two 8th May 2013 04:10

sycamore,
Sorry. Pipped to the post by LFH!

LFH,

Full marks for perseverance. It is indeed Tay Ninh West and the mountain is Núi Bà Đen (Black Lady or Black Virgin mountain).

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psd31e1d07.png

Tay Ninh is just under 50 nm northwest of Saigon, near the Cambodian border, on the northern edge of the Mekong delta. You can see how anomalous the mountain is by looking at the safety altitudes on the TPC above. This chart comes from a great collection of maps here: Vietnam Maps - Perry-Castañeda Map Collection - UT Library Online

http://25thaviation.org/4a580b70.jpg

On a clear day (very rare), I can see the mountain from my office in Saigon. Because the delta is so flat, it's a bit like seeing an island come up over the horizon at sea. I can see only the top two-thirds of the 3200' peak.

The H-21 connection is on this page of a site dedicated to the Thunderbirds (118th Assault Helicopter Company) : Photo Album. The caption reads:

The story behind this mishap was, while taxiing to pick up ARVN troops at Tay Ninh City airfield, the right wheel fell into a covered "well" or hole. As the CH-21 rolled to the right, the blades killed approx. 8 ARVNs standing in a group. No word as to the fate of the 33rd crew.
Tay Ninh is an interesting place in more ways than one. It was at the southern end of the Ho Chi Minh Trail so there was a lot of activity during the "American War", including an NVA assault on the US communications facility on the summit of the mountain in 1968: Attack on Nui Ba Den

More information on the mountain here: Story Of The Black Virgin Mountain

Tay Ninh is also home to the Cao Dai religion (formed in 1926) Cao Dai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which had a private army. During the early 1950s, the army was run by General The (pronouced Tay) (Trinh Minh The - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), who figures very prominently in Graham Greene's book, The Quiet American and in the 2002 film of the same name by Philip Noyce.

Sorry for thread drift. I hope it is of interest.


LFH has control.

Lordflasheart 8th May 2013 15:12

Thank you Simon, fascinating stuff. I'd been trailing round the hilltops following Sycamore and got lucky. Must do the Graham Greene movie again. LFH

Try this -

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1368023433

India Four Two 8th May 2013 16:04


Must do the Graham Greene movie again. LFH
Yes, a great movie. I've watched it many times and like to show visitors the locations. It was originally scheduled to be released in late 2001, but the producers got cold feet after 9/11 because of the movie's not very complimentary view of the CIA.

It was finally released in 2002 after vigorous campaigning by Michael Caine. He should have won an Oscar for his performance as Fowler.

Your latest picture. Are we actually in Tonkin this time?

Duckbutt 8th May 2013 16:35

Looking at range of aircraft types and markings - French air force base? If so one of their former colonies so (thinking aloud) is it North Africa? Or perhaps it's Indo China. Mmm, need a clue I think.

Lordflasheart 8th May 2013 17:16

Sommes-nous réellement au Tonkin, cette fois?

Mais certainement. En avant mes braves.

India Four Two 8th May 2013 17:42

Merci, mon ami.

I'm off to bed, so I'll leave Duckbutt to do the research. ;)

Duckbutt 8th May 2013 19:28

So that suggests that I'm on the right track so I'll dig a bit deeper. As a first guess how about Tan Son Nhut?

Seems a bit too obvious though.....

Lordflasheart 8th May 2013 19:51

My grandad says "When you're innanolelad – stop digging." :)

In ye olden days, Asterix quoth verily - "French Indo-China in tres partes divisa est. Cochin, Annam and Tonkin – south, middle and north in that order."

Not Saigon - Tan Son Nhut. I'm not sure TSN was that active in this time-frame. See posts 3777 to 3793 pages 189-190. Continuez à creuser, Monsieur Duckbutt.

LFH

Duckbutt 8th May 2013 22:22

In my ignorance hadn't realised about the three divisions I'll admit. So more Hanoi'ish then?






Edited to add that with that thought in mind a spot more creusering came up with Bach Mai in Hanoi. C'est possible?

Lordflasheart 8th May 2013 22:54

Spot on Duckbutt. :ok: Hanoi Bach Mai it is. 1954.

Principal military and logistic airbase supporting Dien Bien Phu at that time. According to the writ, there are Navy Bearcats plus Cricquet, Pingouin, C-47, Beaver, Siebel, Beech 18 and Navy Corsair F4U-7 and AU-1 on the field. The pic below is looking towards the Red River with Gia Lam airfield (see page 94 post 1879) in the distant haze the other side of the river. LFH

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1367937102

Well done Duckbutt - You have control.

Duckbutt 9th May 2013 06:31

Thanks. Mel's listdoesn't seem to work at present so hope this is not a duplicate:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ler/Puzz98.jpg

Lightning Mate 9th May 2013 07:11

"Macchi MC.200 very low over airfield"

Grottaglie Airfield, Italy.

Duckbutt 9th May 2013 07:56

That's the one LM, all yours.

Lightning Mate 9th May 2013 08:12

Cheers Db, but I'm afraid this will have to be OH.


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