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India Four Two 13th Jan 2014 10:13

Nea Anchialos?

dash7fan 13th Jan 2014 15:30

No, but try the other side!

nacluv 17th Jan 2014 20:02

In the interests of trying to keep this thread alive, I'll have a stab at Preveza/Aktion then.

dash7fan 18th Jan 2014 07:17

Preveza is it, with decoy F 84 and F 86.


Your control.

nacluv 18th Jan 2014 13:40

Thanks dash7fan.

Decoys, eh? Cool. I see the odd one is still lying around the place, if GE is anything to go by.

Regrettably, I have nothing to hand which will pass (or rather, fail) the GI test, so OH.

John Hill 18th Jan 2014 21:58

Here is another easy one....:)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2851/1...6efa2d0222.jpg

[Later]
Ooops, my apologies! That airport has been on already so OH it is!

BTW, it is Kabul.
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DIBO 21st Jan 2014 13:44

Let's go back well into the past... The sheer size of the building is of course the first clue into the type of aviation that went on here....
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...oonAirbase.jpg
and that's what it looks like nowadays
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...onAirbase2.jpg

India Four Two 21st Jan 2014 15:09

France or Germany?

Lightning Mate 21st Jan 2014 15:33

Possibly Antwerp.

DIBO 21st Jan 2014 16:49


France or Germany?
neither of both, but a lot of French was spoken. And the uninvited visit by the germans, marked the end of the lighter than air era for that airbase (and for the airforce as a whole as a matter of fact)

Antwerp
nope, although Antwerp has also a history going back to the 1920's (the airport building is still largely the original from that era). But it never had a permanent role as an airbase (excluding the years of those uninvited visitors)

asw22 21st Jan 2014 20:54

That would be the ballon hangar of Zellik on the NW outskirts of Brussels, I guess...

DIBO 21st Jan 2014 21:15

Another clue... the base was named after a 'lighter than air' military aviator who died in Passchendaele in 1918 when he was shot down during a reconnaissance mission. By coincidence, the question ‘France or Germany’ from the previous post, can be used here. His first name was of French origin and his last name was of German origin. The airbase had mainly (or even only) tethered balloons in its inventory.

[Edit] oops, I was interrupted while typing the post, and when finishing it, the right answer was already there!! Congrats asw22!!
Indeed, the pre WW II airbase in Zellik, named after Cpt-Cdr. Serge Eckstein, was turned into a military depot after WW II and de-militarised in 1995. This building is about the only thing that remains of the pre WW II era. On GE you can find it at 50°53'31.50"N 4°16'19.00"E

See also Panoramio - Photo of Zellik/Asse, oude ballonloods Panoramio - Photo of Zellik/Asse, oude ballonloods van de luchtvaartkazerne Serge Eckstein

asw22 22nd Jan 2014 20:25

Hello!

> DIBO, It took some time to find this one...but with the clue "a lot of french but not France" and lighter than air...that was a nice one!

Here is my last proposal:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/543/lgds.jpg

I will let you look for it a little bit. The general sector is my usual one...If needed I will give one clue later which will make the identifying sooo much easier....;)

Russell Gulch 24th Jan 2014 19:01

I flew my virtual 'plane up and down the Somme to try to find the location, but failed miserably.

And I know the Somme in person quite well.

So I dont beleive the river in the picture is the Somme so a small clue required please asw.

Russ.

(This "W" thread is so much better behaved than the "Other" one :rolleyes:)

asw22 24th Jan 2014 20:24

OK....Here is the clue:

1945/1/1

;)

India Four Two 25th Jan 2014 02:25

Marne, rather than the Somme?

DIBO 25th Jan 2014 12:24

Think you are referring to Operation Bodenplatte (1jan'45). Maybe we should look more north, in the Battle of the Bulge area??

asw22 25th Jan 2014 19:27

There were not that many airfields targeted in Bödenplatte, and none in the battle of the Bulge area per se...

So look up north, north/north east...

Russell Gulch 25th Jan 2014 20:51

Denmark?

Plus some letters

asw22 26th Jan 2014 19:50

Bödenplatte operation, remember, so not Denmark...

Oldpilot55 27th Jan 2014 09:00

The field pattern looks Dutch to me

asw22 27th Jan 2014 21:59

If you consider the Dutch airfields targets of Bödenplatte you may notice those were large airbases with concrete runways so....

sidtheesexist 28th Jan 2014 08:16

Believe it's German. Maitzborn?

asw22 1st Feb 2014 13:43

Did Bodenplatte have any target in Germany? That would be surprising! You have all the elements to find rather easily the answer to the riddle...:cool:

sidtheesexist 1st Feb 2014 18:35

I believe not since it was the Luftwaffe's last fling and presumably launched from German airfields close to the Low Countries. Hence my suggestion......I hadn't seen a comment indicating that latest airfield was specifically a target! ;)

Have re read previous posts. Asw22, you are quite correct re target, targeting etc. My suggestion is retracted forthwith!!

asw22 1st Feb 2014 21:22

I have used the terms "target" and "targeted" already...This should narrow the field of search don't you think?:p:p:p

DIBO 1st Feb 2014 23:03

Excluding all the other targets, only Metz-Frescaty remains, but can't really match the photo

Oldpilot55 2nd Feb 2014 09:48

Somewhere in Belgium seems possible but I can't find a match

DIBO 2nd Feb 2014 11:26

None of the Belgian (and Dutch for that matter) targets have a wide riverbed nearby
But looking at the picture (and the shades on the ground) again, have to exclude Metz-Frescaty as otherwise the sun would have been shining from the north...

I throw the towel into the ring ...

Phileas Fogg 2nd Feb 2014 11:58

Not by any chance Findel?

Oldpilot55 2nd Feb 2014 15:09

There are 17 airfields listed in Wikipedia as being involved on the BotB but I cannot match them on Google Earth. I'm guessing others have done this but it might save someone else wasting their day!!

asw22 2nd Feb 2014 21:27

It is indeed mentioned in wikipedia...did you (at large) really check all of them:p?

So please have a look there: 50°56'49.92"N 4°23'03.98"E

The contours of the field and various landmarks around are still perfectly identifiable...From a photo interpretation standpoint, it is an easy one!

I will show you soon another one...it will not be easy even with an approximate position...and yet when you know where it is it becomes obvious!

In the mean time, OH please...

Oldpilot55 3rd Feb 2014 04:44

Agreed. The peri track, the river and the road pattern are unchanged. It was 14th on my list and I was getting jaded and not knowing Belgium airfields didn't help.

Russell Gulch 3rd Feb 2014 21:35

I must confess that I see no similarity between what those co-ordinates produce on my map and the original photo.

Perhaps the photo is not north-up?

Russ.

asw22 4th Feb 2014 09:22

Actually it is NE up...but that should not be such a hindrance in this case (yet it is sometimes, true!):

http://imageshack.com/a/img40/9391/62ky.jpg

Cheers!

asw

Oldpilot55 4th Feb 2014 14:13

It looks a lovely little strip but Belgium puts a fair number of obstacles to flying there that I doubt if I will ever visit.

DIBO 4th Feb 2014 21:41

wow, I was really mislead by the original picture. I was looking for a river in a rather wide river bed, so discarded all Belgian airfields, after having a close look on GE just to be sure. I never would have guessed it was Grimbergen (EBGB). And I've flown there, although as a passenger on the Goodyear blimp. It has 2 rather special hangars on the airfield (info in dutch: Vliegveld Grimbergen Loodsen). Some 20+ years ago it still had the original size with 3 grass runways, but environmentalists forced it to close, later opening again much smaller with one runway. The remainder of the former airfield was turned into a recreational/nature area, where the 2 old runways are still clearly visible. Some more history in dutch Recreatief Vliegveld Grimbergen - EBGB - Grimbergen Airfield (then click on 'Geschiedenis' button). The Sabena aeroclub is still based there.

Noyade 21st Feb 2014 10:04

Here's another....

http://imgbin.me/image/XYYHAIXH.jpg

chevvron 21st Feb 2014 10:33

Looks like a development aircraft so possibly Nicosia before it closed?

Noyade 21st Feb 2014 19:36

Not Cyprus, but it is on an island in the Mediterranean.


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